Chopthebass Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 You may have already seen this, but I just came across it for the first time! 2x15, 4x10 and 2x12 in one 2400w RMS cab? Really? Only 155 pounds in weight. I would love to hear what our speaker cab design experts think of this one. 26hz really? https://www.eich-amps.com/xlcab?fbclid=IwAR1IsC15BOyxxHIZNEdz5Zw_BL4BeYBVnUQ4jTu3uY1gJe9QwVq7OYcvMSQ Quote
Mykesbass Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 They need to make a bigger amp - that one looks a bit daft 🤨 Quote
Chopthebass Posted February 7, 2021 Author Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Mykesbass said: They need to make a bigger amp - that one looks a bit daft 🤨 I hadn’t spotted the amp😆😆. Agreed it needs big rack full of unnecessary gear 1 Quote
Mykesbass Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Chopthebass said: I hadn’t spotted the amp😆😆. Not surprising! Pimple on a pig's backside as my old dad would have said! Cab looks amazing though! 1 Quote
Happy Jack Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Free forklift truck with every one purchased, too ... 1 Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I suppose if you know absolutely nothing about loudspeaker design it's impressive. I would have found it so, fifty years ago. But not forty years ago, let alone today. 4 2 Quote
Mykesbass Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: I suppose if you know absolutely nothing about loudspeaker design it's impressive. I would have found it so, fifty years ago. But not forty years ago, let alone today. Come on Bill, it looks great! Might sound rubbish, need three of you to get it on to the stage, and give the sound man no end of nightmares, but it looks great 4 3 Quote
Chopthebass Posted February 7, 2021 Author Posted February 7, 2021 I wonder if the cab has separate compartments? Just generally curious about this speaker cab. I wouldn’t want to move this around. Probably too long for any estate car! Quote
atsampson Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Perhaps it's intended for large touring bands to store all their spare drivers in safely? 🙂 1 Quote
Cuzzie Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Each of them is a sleeping pod for the tour members 1 Quote
Dan Dare Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 26hz? Even if it will go that low (and produce usable volume at that frequency), it's meaningless. Start producing subsonic/infra bass frequencies and you run into all sorts of issues - tons of mud, gobbling up amp headroom, ultra low frequencies migrating into drums and other resonant or acoustic instruments, up mic stands into the PA, etc, etc, to say nothing of the problems involved in transporting it. If you really want enormous frequency range, it would be far more practical to run multiple cabs and horns, with proper active crossovers and dedicated power amplification. One of those "Look how clever we are" products that has little application in the real world. 2 Quote
fretmeister Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I saw it on Facebook when it was launched and I asked a load of questions... until Thomas Eich blocked me. 11 stone for a cab. Bloody stupid. Quote
Cuzzie Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, fretmeister said: I saw it on Facebook when it was launched and I asked a load of questions... until Thomas Eich blocked me. 11 stone for a cab. Bloody stupid. More TE heft chat again no doubt.....🤦🏾♂️ Quote
LukeFRC Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 I had a Tecamp cab and measuring it and working out how it hadn’t been designed properly was the start of a journey through well engineered cabs. With the caveat that I’m not an expert, and I may not have measured correctly or done my sums right - it was an awful piece of non engineering. Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Mykesbass said: it looks great It looks big, I'll grant that. This is the kind of Frankenstein's Monster abomination that can only come out of a marketing department with no input whatsoever from an engineer. That was a common enough scenario in the 60s and 70s, but there's no excuse for it today. 7 Quote
stevie Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 Thomas Eich says those drivers were engineered to work together. Quote
Chopthebass Posted February 7, 2021 Author Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, stevie said: Thomas Eich says those drivers were engineered to work together. He would, wouldn’t he! 1 Quote
stevie Posted February 7, 2021 Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 😊 Yes, he would. Edited February 7, 2021 by stevie Quote
fretmeister Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 10 hours ago, stevie said: Thomas Eich says those drivers were engineered to work together. He told me that as well. I also asked him why his market research suggested such a heavy cab would sell in sufficient numbers in the modern lightweight cab world particularly after Darkglass had abandoned their heavy cabs after only a year.... and then pointed him to other similar sized cabs with better specs and only half the weight. Then I got blocked. 1 Quote
Phil Starr Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 C'mon guys give them a break. It's a publicity thing. I see they are offering custom builds and designs too, maybe this started off as one of those. If Barefaced suddenly and unexpectedly offered an 8x15 we'd all be hooked into it. I'd absolutely love to play in front of that Grateful Dead PA even though I know it's 'all wrong' and would be completely blown out of the water by a modern line array. Anyone remember this Custom 8x15 bass cabinet - Amps and Cabs - Basschat Of course he chose speakers that would more or less work together, is that engineering? Who cares, it's a bit of fun, nobody here is going to buy the thing, but if we saw it in Metallica's back line???? Of course it's all wrong, those 8 speakers should be in a vertical line with proper crossovers and maybe in a D'Appolito alignment with the horns at ear level so the bassist can 'really' hear what they are playing. Think of this as like those giant figures on Route66 or the world's biggest pencil in the pencil museum in Keswick. If someone wants a custom 4x18 I'm up fr a commission 4 Quote
thodrik Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) This cab would not look out of place in one of those old vintage Trace Elliot brochures, where the product description would be along the lines of 'best used in pairs for a full range stereo gig. Richard Savage used 8 of these on the most recent Def Leppard tour. Slap players may benefit from using the optional 12x6 Mega Bright Box in order to bring out some extra highs.' Edited February 8, 2021 by thodrik 4 Quote
Mykesbass Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Phil Starr said: If someone wants a custom 4x18 I'm up fr a commission Expensive - you'll have to build a new shed first... Quote
Al Krow Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Phil Starr said: C'mon guys give them a break. It's a publicity thing. I see they are offering custom builds and designs too, maybe this started off as one of those. If Barefaced suddenly and unexpectedly offered an 8x15 we'd all be hooked into it. I'd absolutely love to play in front of that Grateful Dead PA even though I know it's 'all wrong' and would be completely blown out of the water by a modern line array. Anyone remember this Custom 8x15 bass cabinet - Amps and Cabs - Basschat Of course he chose speakers that would more or less work together, is that engineering? Who cares, it's a bit of fun, nobody here is going to buy the thing, but if we saw it in Metallica's back line???? Of course it's all wrong, those 8 speakers should be in a vertical line with proper crossovers and maybe in a D'Appolito alignment with the horns at ear level so the bassist can 'really' hear what they are playing. Think of this as like those giant figures on Route66 or the world's biggest pencil in the pencil museum in Keswick. If someone wants a custom 4x18 I'm up fr a commission Nicely put Phil. Except...speak for yourself when it comes to a BF 8x15, I'm sticking with my BB2 😁 Quote
Reggaebass Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 Great looking cab, it might sound a bit bright with 2 tweeters 😁 1 1 Quote
Beer of the Bass Posted February 8, 2021 Posted February 8, 2021 15 hours ago, Chopthebass said: I wonder if the cab has separate compartments? Just generally curious about this speaker cab. I wouldn’t want to move this around. Probably too long for any estate car! With the front porting at the bottom, the only way they could be in separate compartments would be if the 2x15“ drivers were ported and everything else was in sealed internal boxes. 1 Quote
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