Itamar Henry Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows by any chance, I play a 5 string Ibanez ergodyne EBC 705 The D string tuning peg doesn't spin anymore and the top broke so the string can't stay in its place, I believe it needs to be replaced, I would go to a shop but.... But Online I couldn't find any one tuning peg that has my specific models name.. So I was wondering is there anything "generic" or specific that would work with my bass (Ibanez ergodyne EBC 705) and is available online nowdays? Thank very much for any help😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Have you checked out the parts listings on the support page of the Ibby site? https://cs.hoshinogakki.co.jp/pcw.nsf gives OE Part numbers and replacement numbers for discontinued items. Then google these numbers for New old stock... often found on a couple of german music sites, possibly on the Bay? Edited February 7, 2021 by PaulThePlug 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, PaulThePlug said: Have you checked out the parts listings on the support page of the Ibby site? https://cs.hoshinogakki.co.jp/pcw.nsf gives OE Part numbers and replacement numbers for discontinued items. Then google these numbers for New old stock... often found on a couple of german music sites, possibly on the Bay? Thank you! No I didn't know that, I'll try to do what you suggested and let you know if it worked for me, thanks again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Hi there(: Quick update, I found the item it's a replacement: 2MB0007R-BK I even managed to find it in online stores but non of them deliver to the UK it seems.. Very strange I thought maybe I missed something, ether way it seems very rare.. Not sure what to do if there is no source for this in the UK 🤔 Thank you very much Itamar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 https://www.meinlshop.de/en/ibanez/spare-parts/e-basses/tuning-machines/single-tuning-machines/ibanez-e-bass-machinehead-right-die-cast-black-substitute-for-2mh1cb222b-r-2mb0007r-bk My advice is to buy all new GOTOH Res-O-Lites: https://g-gotoh.com/product/gb350/?lang=en If one of your machine-heads broke w/o provocation, any one of the others could go at any point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: https://www.meinlshop.de/en/ibanez/spare-parts/e-basses/tuning-machines/single-tuning-machines/ibanez-e-bass-machinehead-right-die-cast-black-substitute-for-2mh1cb222b-r-2mb0007r-bk My advice is to buy all new GOTOH Res-O-Lites: https://g-gotoh.com/product/gb350/?lang=en If one of your machine-heads broke w/o provocation, any one of the others could go at any point. Thank you that's an interesting yet scary thought! I might be missing something but from what I could see this website wouldn't send staff to the UK... Maybe I failed to find it (highly likely 😅) But still that seems to be a recurring problem, That a store has it but doesn't deliver to the UK... Odd and a bit annoying Thank you so much for the advise though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Maybe an email to https://www.headstockdistribution.com/brands/ibanez ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, PaulThePlug said: Maybe an email to https://www.headstockdistribution.com/brands/ibanez ? Wow that's awesome I'll feel like a detective I'll try emailing them now thank you so much for the amazing tips! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 I feel like I should warn you about buying Ibanez 'Standard' machine-heads, because IME they are crap since 2011. Find a luthier supply in the U.K. (or Europe) that sells GOTOH. GOTOH is what Ibanez use on the higher-end stuff. BTW, Mein Shop in Deutschland has a drop-down menu that lets you select Great Britain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.G.E.N.T.E. Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Gotoh are very good indeed. Another alternative are hipshots. Just make sure to measure the hole so you buy the right size. As far as a can remember the Warwick tuners also fitted my Ibanez. I think both are 14mm hole diameter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 20 hours ago, PaulThePlug said: Maybe an email to https://www.headstockdistribution.com/brands/ibanez Amazing good to know I'll avoid those then! What is this "main shop"? Sorry if it's a silly question And thanks again for the warning 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: 15 hours ago, A.G.E.N.T.E. said: Gotoh are very good indeed. Another alternative are hipshots. Just make sure to measure the hole so you buy the right size. As far as a can remember the Warwick tuners also fitted my Ibanez. I think both are 14mm hole diameter. That's very interesting, Is your Ibanez an ergodyne ? Do Ibanez have a standard ? And also how dose one mesure ones holes ? Thank you very much For the kind help ☺️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyJ Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Itamar Henry said: What is this "main shop"? That should probably be Meinl Shop, after the drum brand. They sell Ibanez spare parts too: https://www.meinlshop.de/en/ibanez/spare-parts/e-basses/tuning-machines?p=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, LeftyJ said: That should probably be Meinl Shop, after the drum brand. They sell Ibanez spare parts too: https://www.meinlshop.de/en/ibanez/spare-parts/e-basses/tuning-machines?p=1 O I see haha I should have got that, Unless I'm missing something The specific tuning key I'm looking for is not available for delivery to the UK for some reason 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 https://www.thomann.de/gb/gotoh_gb350_2l_2r_bc_bass_tuners.htm here are the specs: https://g-gotoh.com/images/pdf/GB350-Dim.pdf https://g-gotoh.com/product/gb350/?lang=en 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Please note: Even a good replacement (exact same post/bushing/nut sizes) may not line up exactly with the screw or screw holes, you may need to drill & fill: Any unfilled holes will let a little moisture in & out but is mostly cosmetic. What is crucial is you drill a new hole of an appropriate size before mounting a tuner that doesn't fit exactly with the existing hole. You will break a screw trying to force it into maple or other stout hardwood. You might be able to cheat a bit if there is a small bit of slack in the fit, but chances are it will be at an off angle - which would bug me tuning up. Do as you see fit, best of luck. Impressive collaboration, digging up all those links! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 23 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: https://www.thomann.de/gb/gotoh_gb350_2l_2r_bc_bass_tuners.htm here are the specs: https://g-gotoh.com/images/pdf/GB350-Dim.pdf https://g-gotoh.com/product/gb350/?lang=en 7 hours ago, PlungerModerno said: Please note: Even a good replacement (exact same post/bushing/nut sizes) may not line up exactly with the screw or screw holes, you may need to drill & fill: Any unfilled holes will let a little moisture in & out but is mostly cosmetic. What is crucial is you drill a new hole of an appropriate size before mounting a tuner that doesn't fit exactly with the existing hole. You will break a screw trying to force it into maple or other stout hardwood. You might be able to cheat a bit if there is a small bit of slack in the fit, but chances are it will be at an off angle - which would bug me tuning up. Do as you see fit, best of luck. Impressive collaboration, digging up all those links! very interesting points ! so now this is even more confusing your saying that even if i get the right size it might not be enough ? that's disturbing haha and also GOTOH pegs look amazing! just getting paranoid now that i would buy the wrong size,🤢 do you know by any chance if the GB350 refers to size? is there a standard in general when it comes to sizes of tuning peg boars ? anyway thank very much all the crazy detective experience those were truly amazing links deep dive as Plungermoderno says (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 As I understand it there is only a few measurements you need to get right, all should be on the spec sheet linked in by @Killed_by_Death (the .pdf). The point I made about the hole or holes that might or mighn't match are just the attachment screw(s). Two tuners may be similar in every way, one might have a different screw location: vs. I think the second one is a guitar tuner though lol. If you find the only one in stock that fits your specs (size, colour or finish, price) has an inconvenient screw location - I'd say get it and fit it, loads of guides online. I imagine you'll find a drop in replacement though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, PlungerModerno said: As I understand it there is only a few measurements you need to get right, all should be on the spec sheet linked in by @Killed_by_Death (the .pdf). The point I made about the hole or holes that might or mighn't match are just the attachment screw(s). Two tuners may be similar in every way, one might have a different screw location: vs. I think the second one is a guitar tuner though lol. If you find the only one in stock that fits your specs (size, colour or finish, price) has an inconvenient screw location - I'd say get it and fit it, loads of guides online. I imagine you'll find a drop in replacement though. o i see! haha amazing thank you now i got it 🙂 your right there is almost to much info online it makes me dizzy ! but with some more digging i hope ill get my D string back in action 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cribbin Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 This post is like deja vu for me ... Good luck getting a reply from the UK suppliers, even providing the part numbers I didn't get a response and I'm not the first. Yep the continental suppliers have the parts, but can't sell to the UK. I ended up buying some dirt cheap tuning pegs on Ebay from China and canibalising the parts so I could do a rebuild and keep the original color. One day I'll even find some B200 bridge saddles, even though they are supposed to be an available part. If you do find someone wiling to supply original parts, please let us know ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itamar Henry Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Hi(: That's crazy haha sort of happy to hear in not the only one with this strange problem! I did get an answer from Ibanez just today After I already bought a gotoh gb350 (which was the wrong one coz it's on the other side of the bass head so I needed a "left handed tuning peg" which didn't occur to me😅😭🤣) They just asked for my address and said they'll send me the part Which I found strange Because they didn't say anything about payment or anything practical 🤔 very strange Let's see if anyone replys and if this "peg saga" will come to an end! On 11/02/2021 at 12:41, John Cribbin said: This post is like deja vu for me ... Good luck getting a reply from the UK suppliers, even providing the part numbers I didn't get a response and I'm not the first. Yep the continental suppliers have the parts, but can't sell to the UK. I ended up buying some dirt cheap tuning pegs on Ebay from China and canibalising the parts so I could do a rebuild and keep the original color. One day I'll even find some B200 bridge saddles, even though they are supposed to be an available part. If you do find someone wiling to supply original parts, please let us know ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I worked on someone's Ergodyne once, and the machines were indeed soft material. One of the arms of the tuner post had broken, but still functioned, so I drilled a hole in the other arm to thread the string through. It was a bodge, but worked ok at no extra cost. If it were mine I would have changed the lot. The neck was superb though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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