Doom metal

[SteveXFR]

1 hour ago, Shockwave said:

 

 

I remember picking up this album randomly a few years ago. It is absolutely amazing. Just such a massive feeling listening to it. Even my Ex who absolutely detests heavy music actually genuinely likes YOB. 

In other news, I am very disappointed with the new Swallow The Sun Album. A let down. It's very tame and paint by numbers... 😕

 

I forget his username but I'm sure the bassist from Yob is/was a member of this forum. They are awesome, I'm a big fan 

[christhammer666]

9 hours ago, SteveXFR said:

 

I forget his username but I'm sure the bassist from Yob is/was a member of this forum. They are awesome, I'm a big fan 

Marrow has got to be one of the most beautiful songs ever written

[SteveXFR]

Adrift in the ocean is a favourite for me

[sky]

On 17/10/2024 at 17:36, sky said:

thanks all, ill hold off on going for anything soon, id really like to try keep spending under 250 or so, sounds like the laney digbeth or an ashdown abm600 are a decent bet to go for and i think ive seen those ashdowns pretty reasonably priced before so ill keep an eye out.

definetely see how my sound city goes over the weekend through the 4x10 at the rehearsal space and maybe ill just keep running that, my only fear is it crapping out but i guess cross that bridge when i come to it

I may throw my wanting something lighter away... I've been offered a pretty fair price on a marshall vba400, do you guys think that'd be a good doom amp?

 

On paper I reckon it should be great, but you don't really see many people in the scene using one

[Dad3353]

19 minutes ago, sky said:

... a marshall vba400 ...

 

I'm not sure that you've thought this through. 400w of valve amp is going to want double that in speaker cabs, if you want to turn it up at all. It's not at all like 400w of solid-state, and the cabs that would be suitable weigh as much, or more, than the amp itself, plus the sheer volume (in cubic metres...) that they take up, whether you're playing or not. It's really not feasible for general pub gigs, or any venue, really, except stadiums. A good bragging point, of course, and a great amp when used at its full potential; when are you next playing the Hollywood Bowl, though..? Does it go Loud..? Yes, in spades, with the set of cabs to match that power, but you'll have to factor in the cost of the Transit van, sturdy sack truck and a couple of burly roadies for the event when next out. You asked; you are now forewarned. 

[SteveXFR]

Personally I wouldn't go valve. I managed to get some disgusting sound with an Ashdown ABM600 and a Two Notes Le Bass valve preamp pedal with the dirt wound up.

[sky]

1 hour ago, Dad3353 said:

 

I'm not sure that you've thought this through. 400w of valve amp is going to want double that in speaker cabs, if you want to turn it up at all. It's not at all like 400w of solid-state, and the cabs that would be suitable weigh as much, or more, than the amp itself, plus the sheer volume (in cubic metres...) that they take up, whether you're playing or not. It's really not feasible for general pub gigs, or any venue, really, except stadiums. A good bragging point, of course, and a great amp when used at its full potential; when are you next playing the Hollywood Bowl, though..? Does it go Loud..? Yes, in spades, with the set of cabs to match that power, but you'll have to factor in the cost of the Transit van, sturdy sack truck and a couple of burly roadies for the event when next out. You asked; you are now forewarned. 

Thanks for the wisdom, I'm glad I asked!

Honestly i didn't know about the wattage on cabinets, I just assumed you want at minimum the wattage of the amp for the cabinet

 

considering Id be using it mostly with rehearsal room cabinets that's definitely something that could have been a problem.

[sky]

2 hours ago, SteveXFR said:

Personally I wouldn't go valve. I managed to get some disgusting sound with an Ashdown ABM600 and a Two Notes Le Bass valve preamp pedal with the dirt wound up.

Honestly I was looking for something smaller and lighter than the sound city I have, but it cropped up on Facebook and it distracted me...

[Dad3353]

47 minutes ago, sky said:

Thanks for the wisdom, I'm glad I asked!

Honestly i didn't know about the wattage on cabinets, I just assumed you want at minimum the wattage of the amp for the cabinet

 

considering Id be using it mostly with rehearsal room cabinets that's definitely something that could have been a problem.

 

It's 'old school' nowadays, but was common 'knowledge', 'back then'. A Marshall head was rated at 100w, a Marshall cab would have four 30w speakers in there, so 120w. It was 'normal' to stack two cabs, for 240w, and still speakers would regularly get 'blown', if the amp was 'cranked'..! It's not quite the same these days, with solid-state amps having overload protection, and cabs with better heat dispersion, but 400 valve watts is a lot of power; such an amp is capable of creating lots and lots of 'magic smoke' if it thinks it's being abused. 

[Salt on your Bass?]

6 hours ago, sky said:

I may throw my wanting something lighter away... I've been offered a pretty fair price on a marshall vba400, do you guys think that'd be a good doom amp?

 

On paper I reckon it should be great, but you don't really see many people in the scene using one

 

I've only played one once in a. Festival stage and it was pretty good through an 810. Spades of power and presence. 

Everyone's posts above are bang on.....throw in the cost of a revalve and it's not cheap...

 

That said I still play through a matamp gt200. Not the most practical, heavy, way too loud at times, but I love playing it.

 

I had a Laney nexus (400w all valve) for a while. Awesome amp, but played too many gigs where it didn't really get going in the power section. 

 

I bet the soundcity is pretty banging as amps go. If you're looking lighter I think the handbox might be at 100ish watts?..... Ashdown ctm100 is pretty light by valve standards.... Kinda depends on your rehearsal volume, cabs and tuning etc. ✌️

 

[MichaelDean]

I hope it's ok to post this here. My band have organised a doom night, should be a good one. Pretty close to Temple Meads, in Moor Beer's brewery on the 14th of December.

 

https://www.headfirstbristol.co.uk/whats-on/moor-beer-co/sat-14-dec-christmas-of-doom-114885#e114885

 

[sky]

On 11/11/2024 at 20:13, Salt on your Bass? said:

 

I've only played one once in a. Festival stage and it was pretty good through an 810. Spades of power and presence. 

Everyone's posts above are bang on.....throw in the cost of a revalve and it's not cheap...

 

That said I still play through a matamp gt200. Not the most practical, heavy, way too loud at times, but I love playing it.

 

I had a Laney nexus (400w all valve) for a while. Awesome amp, but played too many gigs where it didn't really get going in the power section. 

 

I bet the soundcity is pretty banging as amps go. If you're looking lighter I think the handbox might be at 100ish watts?..... Ashdown ctm100 is pretty light by valve standards.... Kinda depends on your rehearsal volume, cabs and tuning etc. ✌️

 

The sound city seems to be doing pretty good for sure! I'm a little paranoid it'll go bang one day but we shall see.

 

Honestly I think I've overestimated the wattage I'd need, I saw eyehategod in Bournemouth this Tuesday gone and Gary had a 900 watt dark glass head and he had the volume less than half... Mega loud!