Rich Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Here’s one for @Bluewine University of Liverpool offers master's degree in Fab Four https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-56182212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 I guess this is the step second in a student's career progression after a degree in Gender Studies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassace Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Creative whingeing studies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Judging by the fact that it's only a 1 year course I take it they weren't that influential? In ll honestly I'd have thought if you want to be that focused you'd do it as a pHD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbiscuits Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Already covered some of it during my degree in indeterminate studies. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 And I bet at the end they still don’t know who the fifth Beatle is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicko Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Nail Soup said: And I bet at the end they still don’t know who the fifth Beatle is. I think you'll find they were called the Fab Four because there were four of them.😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 8 hours ago, bassace said: Creative whingeing studies. yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 It was me. I WAS the Walrus Bustards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Nail Soup said: And I bet at the end they still don’t know who the fifth Beatle is. Your mother should know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I feel increasingly out of step on some of the issues raised hereabouts. I got the 5th Beatle gag, but most other comments are bewildering. Is it that folk feel the Beatles provide an insufficiently significant contribution to the subject? Is it snobbery from people who have degrees in more 'important' disciplines? Or reverse snobbery from those who think all students are a waste of time? I can't work it out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odysseus Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Excellent. The jobs market is crying out for Beatles specialists. I'm all in favour of doing a degree purely for the enjoyment of the subject matter, but it's only going to attract those with the appropriate amount of disposable income to spend on it... unless you can get some sort of Arts Council grant... A bit of a niche market, but why not if that's yer bag and you fancy another year on the p!ss?... 🙃 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 11 hours ago, stewblack said: Is it snobbery from people who have degrees in more 'important' disciplines? Yes, and quite right too. 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 13 hours ago, stewblack said: Is it that folk feel the Beatles provide an insufficiently significant contribution to the subject? Is it snobbery from people who have degrees in more 'important' disciplines? Or reverse snobbery from those who think all students are a waste of time? No to all of the above. The more "degrees" there are, the more employers insist on them as a condition of employment, no matter what the job. This forces young people to run up large debts and spend extra time in education simply in order to get a foot on the first rung of the ladder. Many universities have become a bit of a racket these days. Most charge as much as possible and some so-called degrees have questionable value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Education at that level is about the processes of critical thinking, research, evaluation etc. If the topic you choose to drive that is The Beatles then all power to you. It is certainly the equal of learning how to write fugues and studying Bluebeard's Castle by Bartók like I had to for my degree. However, the reason Universities can be (and are) a racket is that the UK gives NO kudos to anything but white collar. Vocational education is very much seen as 2nd class. I work in vocational education and I know this to be true. The UK is messed up. Edited February 27, 2021 by owen because of the spelling. Always because of the spelling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, owen said: the UK gives NO kudos to anything but white collar. Vocational education is very much seen as 2nd class. Very true. It's always been the case. Back in 1962, I was prevailed upon to go to the local grammar school, rather than the technical high school (which was my choice). I was 11 at the time, so had little say in the matter. I hated the place and couldn't wait to leave. My parents, like so many skin-of-the-teeth middle class English couples, were convinced that learning ancient Greek and Latin would better prepare one for a life of shuffling papers and that getting ones hands dirty at work was infra dig. That attitude is all too common in this country and is why there is a dearth of engineers and technical craftsmen/women, whilst we are over-run with people qualified in humanities, etc. We need those engineers and skilled people to save the world. The media studies brigade aren't going to do it for us. I've often thought that one of the main reasons I ended up playing music is that it was one of the few opportunities I had to pursue a craft skill. Edited February 27, 2021 by Dan Dare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 27/02/2021 at 11:31, Dan Dare said: No to all of the above. The more "degrees" there are, the more employers insist on them as a condition of employment, no matter what the job. This forces young people to run up large debts and spend extra time in education simply in order to get a foot on the first rung of the ladder. Many universities have become a bit of a racket these days. Most charge as much as possible and some so-called degrees have questionable value. which is why before going, graduate employment rates for their chosen institution(s) should be looked at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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