hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: If someone could please buy the bass I'm selling through them, then I will be able to add my comments on how smoothly or otherwise receiving my money was 😁 The irony being that if it did now sell as a resulting of you mentioning it, you would still be paying 20% to BD instead of £7 or whatever it now is to Basschat. Each to their own of course, but I really can’t get my head around this giving 20% to a third party seller. With a bit of effort and patience, I’ve managed to sell every bass I’ve ever advertised either here or through Facebook Marketplace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: The irony being that if it did now sell as a resulting of you mentioning it, you would still be paying 20% to BD instead of £7 or whatever it now is to Basschat. Each to their own of course, but I really can’t get my head around this giving 20% to a third party seller. With a bit of effort and patience, I’ve managed to sell every bass I’ve ever advertised either here or through Facebook Marketplace. Thank you for overcoming your powers of perception, and choosing not to take on board the tongue in cheek nature of my comment. Firstly, your concern that I'm too tight to cough up £7 to BassChat – you'll be pleased to hear that in lieu of purchasing access to the Marketplace I bought a pack of BC straplocks. Secondly, the bass I'm selling is not the kind of thing that sells on BC – I have kept a very close eye on what's offered here, and what actually sells, and have seen no evidence to suggest that listing the bass would be anything but a waste of time. Thirdly, something that doesn't sell here isn't going to be bought from Bass Direct by a BCer – my comment wasn't at all an attempt to help it shift. But you already knew that, and just used my post as excuse for you to show off that rich EBMM fans have no problem passing around their glossy objets d'arts. Fourthly, I'd rather pay 20% to a specialist retailer* than join Facebook *or receive a Domestos enema Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: The irony being that if it did now sell as a resulting of you mentioning it, you would still be paying 20% to BD instead of £7 or whatever it now is to Basschat. Each to their own of course, but I really can’t get my head around this giving 20% to a third party seller. With a bit of effort and patience, I’ve managed to sell every bass I’ve ever advertised either here or through Facebook Marketplace. I used The Bass Gallery for my commission sales. Firstly, because I was selling a ‘bass that must not be mentioned’. Secondly, the commission was only 15%. Thirdly, they take care of any deliveries and insurance for said delivery. Finally, they deal with any issues by supporting the product for a couple of weeks after purchase. Each time I’ve used them, I’ve also paid for a BC seller’s subscription so that I can post a for sale thread here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) I tried to sell a G&L bass through The Bass Galley. They had it about 3 weeks and I had to chase them up to actually post the bass on their site and when they did the photo`s were crap and the info about the bass non existent. Got it back then.. Got Mark to sell it, good photo`s and description. Result, it sold in a couple of weeks. It was a 20% fee instead of 15% but it went. I will say his communication could be better once the bass sells as others have stated. And I did have a bad experience regarding a bass I bought from him a couple of years back re the condition but what the heck. The reason I sold the bass through BD and paid the commission is I don`t do Facebook much and selling a G&L on here for a decent price can be rather difficult. And I have very little patience when selling much to my wallets detriment! Edited August 12, 2021 by jezzaboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said: Thank you for overcoming your powers of perception, and choosing not to take on board the tongue in cheek nature of my comment. Firstly, your concern that I'm too tight to cough up £7 to BassChat – you'll be pleased to hear that in lieu of purchasing access to the Marketplace I bought a pack of BC straplocks. Secondly, the bass I'm selling is not the kind of thing that sells on BC – I have kept a very close eye on what's offered here, and what actually sells, and have seen no evidence to suggest that listing the bass would be anything but a waste of time. Thirdly, something that doesn't sell here isn't going to be bought from Bass Direct by a BCer – my comment wasn't at all an attempt to help it shift. But you already knew that, and just used my post as excuse for you to show off that rich EBMM fans have no problem passing around their glossy objets d'arts. Fourthly, I'd rather pay 20% to a specialist retailer* than join Facebook *or receive a Domestos enema I wasn’t having a dig at you personally, I just don’t get the commission thing. I can understand some people not wanting to use eBay and some also have an aversion to Facebook, but there’s not much that won’t sell on Reverb. But hey, it’s your money. I have no clue what the EBMM comment is about 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagsieblue Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 It's entirely possible that even after the commission has been taken out a seller could still end up with the same amount of money or possibly more money. Many used basses on Bass Direct are listed up for over 20% more than they would have been likely to have been listed for in the various places to list a private sale. This also provides access to a larger, specialised customer base. Warwicks for example appear to sell through Bass Direct for much more than a seller would likely get in a straight person to person private sale. Commisssion isnt all negative of couse. I'm always reminded of the commission free currency exchange rates. On many of these you could come out with a better deal on an exchange where you do pay a commission on a rate that is x percentage points over and above what you would pay as a commission percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Roger2611 said: One minor frustration, I have sold 5 basses through Bass Direct over the last couple of months, all sold for what I wanted back for them and all sold really quickly, my frustration is on how you get paid, I have had to chase on every bass to confirm I had been paid for them, I am still waiting for confirmation that the money for the final one sold has been paid in to my account! There doesn't seem to be any process to let a seller know they have been paid for the bass sold by Bass Direct on their behalf! I have brought loads from Bass Direct in the past and have always found them a pleasure to deal with, this was my first ever experience of selling on a commission basis and again I was impressed and generally happy with the process all I needed was a text or email to confirm that payment had been made! Just checked with my bank who have confirmed that it has been paid! A final update, Mark rang me today to confirm that it had been paid! Would I sell through Bass Direct again, yep, without hesitation, I did put all the basses out on sale on other sales sites prior to moving them to Bass Direct and had absolutely no sensible interest in them, Mark sold them really quickly and returned the same money I had put them out for on the other sales sites, so the eventual buyers ended up paying 20% more for them, I priced them pretty keenly to try and get a quick sale, maybe I should have priced them 20% higher when I offered them out 1st time! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldon Tyrell Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, bagsieblue said: It's entirely possible that even after the commission has been taken out a seller could still end up with the same amount of money or possibly more money. Many used basses on Bass Direct are listed up for over 20% more than they would have been likely to have been listed for in the various places to list a private sale. This also provides access to a larger, specialised customer base. Totally agree, BD has access to a huge customer base and selling via them also means that I don't have to deal with prospective customer inquiries (including silly lowball offers) and I also don't have to deal with shipping (including items getting lost or damaged or potential returns). So, I am happy to give up 20% for these benefits (which otherwise would be "costs" - time, money, energy, nerves etc.). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, bagsieblue said: It's entirely possible that even after the commission has been taken out a seller could still end up with the same amount of money or possibly more money. Many used basses on Bass Direct are listed up for over 20% more than they would have been likely to have been listed for in the various places to list a private sale. This also provides access to a larger, specialised customer base. Warwicks for example appear to sell through Bass Direct for much more than a seller would likely get in a straight person to person private sale. Commisssion isnt all negative of couse. I'm always reminded of the commission free currency exchange rates. On many of these you could come out with a better deal on an exchange where you do pay a commission on a rate that is x percentage points over and above what you would pay as a commission percentage. It's worth remembering that the commission sale system gives the buyer advantages and the seller a specialist audience and avoid time wasters, without 20% vat going on the price. Much better deal than selling to a shop who then sell on as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: It's worth remembering that the commission sale system gives the buyer advantages and the seller a specialist audience and avoid time wasters, without 20% vat going on the price. Much better deal than selling to a shop who then sell on as well. Only if they don't lose it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 “Bass Laundering” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Its like magic, making a bass disappear. Just need something bigger than a top hat, and some dodgy lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Just now, fleabag said: Its like magic, making a bass disappear. Just need something bigger than a top hat, and some dodgy lies I’m sure it was rubbish anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 The magic or the bass ? 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, fleabag said: Its like magic, making a bass disappear. Just need something bigger than a top hat, and some dodgy lies Or a sound engineer that loves Kick drum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 12 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: The irony being that if it did now sell as a resulting of you mentioning it, you would still be paying 20% to BD instead of £7 or whatever it now is to Basschat. Each to their own of course, but I really can’t get my head around this giving 20% to a third party seller. With a bit of effort and patience, I’ve managed to sell every bass I’ve ever advertised either here or through Facebook Marketplace. Depends on your local market and your marketing skills, available patience to deal with time wasters vs BD's marketing on the shop floor. If say BD can get 10% more than you can privately a lot of people would consider that money well spent in savings on aggravation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmccombe7 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I had dealt with Mark at BD on line via emails etc but when looking for a good 5 stringer i wasnt sure what i wanted and decided to drive down. 250 miles each way. It was well worth the trip just to see the selection of basses he keeps in stock. I came away with a Dingwall NG2 that was suggested by Mark. If i'm buying new its my first stop. They are always happy to help you and offer advice. Highly recommend Bass Direct Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 On 12/08/2021 at 12:28, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: The irony being that if it did now sell as a resulting of you mentioning it, you would still be paying 20% to BD instead of £7 or whatever it now is to Basschat. Each to their own of course, but I really can’t get my head around this giving 20% to a third party seller. With a bit of effort and patience, I’ve managed to sell every bass I’ve ever advertised either here or through Facebook Marketplace. From my experience, and that of various friends who have sold an instrument through them, they tend to sell it for more than you might on here, helping to mitigate the commission fee. They’re also responsible for the shipping, and completing customs paperwork, and for any after sale service. They’re a long-established shop with a good international reputation. It makes sense - to me at least - if you’ve got something a little out of the ordinary, to use them. They have a wider customer base to sell to. If you look at the BC marketplace, there’s some instruments that have been for sale for absolutely ages. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just to say as I posted a while back and others since then - My new computor is preventing me from accessing Bass Direct due to a Trojan threat. Suggest you guys at BD have a look at what on your site is sounding the alarm bells on peoples security systems. I can access every other bass shop no problem, which may = loss of revenue if a large number of people are having similar problems. its interfering with my dailey browes of your lovely basses 🙁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I've just been on the BD site and there was no alarm bells or sirens when I logged on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobthedog Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 No issues for me using Apple Mac and/or iPad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I was on bd about an hour ago and nothing flagged on the iPad, are they members here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Fine for me too. I suspect the issue is at @deepbass5's end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, deepbass5 said: Just to say as I posted a while back and others since then - My new computor is preventing me from accessing Bass Direct due to a Trojan threat. Suggest you guys at BD have a look at what on your site is sounding the alarm bells on peoples security systems. I can access every other bass shop no problem, which may = loss of revenue if a large number of people are having similar problems. its interfering with my dailey browes of your lovely basses 🙁 Is the “b” button on your keyboard broke? 😬 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 OK thanks guys - Just naturally taking note when things there to protect you say "Step away from the computer" 😕 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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