ped Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 How sweet is the bass on this tune. Bassist is David Barard who is a tone hero of mine. I first heard him playing with Dr. John and was blown away by his 70s Jazz Bass sound, to me it exemplifies everything I like about that sound with its open treble and clanky bottom end. I've finally got around to learning this tune and thought I'd share it because it's such a nice groove. @bubinga5 I think you'll like this album! Barard plays a Sadowsky and sounds pretty much straight to desk with light strings or at least a fairly heavy touch and low action. I love the fret rattle and the way the notes sound slapped when he digs in. I am able to get this bang on with my Celinder but my playing is nowhere near as tight! I think he's on Facebook actually so I might try to contact him, seems like a cool guy. 5 Quote
Stingray5 Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) @ped that second number, "Livin' On Love", put me very much in mind of one of my all-time fave bands, Little Feat. The feel and groove and even a touch of slide guitar. So I checked out the credits and, blow me down if one of the co-writers of that song isn't Craig Fuller who was a member of 'Feat from 1988-1996. Loved the bass on both tracks btw - right in the pocket! Edited March 29, 2021 by Stingray5 1 Quote
Marc S Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) @ped yes, it's a good Jazz bass sound - I think that slight fret rattle sounds great, it seems to add a little "bite" to the sound Though I think it's a delicate balance.... For me, it's just about edging on "too much". Scott talks about it on one of his YouTube videos (from quite a while back, if my memory serves me). He talks about setting his basses up to be "fret-buzz-free", and then he lowers the saddles by a tiny amount, until he's satisfied that he's just just the right amount of rattle. I agree, this guy sounds a great player. Not heard of him before. EDIT: I wanted to add - after a while, that "rattle" might end up getting on my nerves... a bit, in that I mightn't want it on every song Ah well, just have to own two Jazz basses then eh? Edited March 29, 2021 by Marc S Quote
ezbass Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 14:05, ped said: Another track: Expand Too... much... goodness... I need to lie down after so much funk and tone. Thanks for posting @ped, I’m going to be sharing this. 1 Quote
ped Posted March 29, 2021 Author Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 15:03, Marc S said: @ped yes, it's a good Jazz bass sound - I think that slight fret rattle sounds great, it seems to add a little "bite" to the sound Though I think it's a delicate balance.... For me, it's just about edging on "too much". Scott talks about it on one of his YouTube videos (from quite a while back, if my memory serves me). He talks about setting his basses up to be "fret-buzz-free", and then he lowers the saddles by a tiny amount, until he's satisfied that he's just just the right amount of rattle. I agree, this guy sounds a great player. Not heard of him before. EDIT: I wanted to add - after a while, that "rattle" might end up getting on my nerves... a bit, in that I mightn't want it on every song Ah well, just have to own two Jazz basses then eh? Expand It's one of the best things about a good 70s jazz I think - that rattle just sounds so sweet, and with a super low action you can go from bury to kind of a nailed clank which sounds especially good when it's just hitting a limiter. David controls that rattle really nicely, sprinkling it on some grooves like sugar on weetabix. Very addictive sound IMO. I can take or leave a 60s spring jazz sound - never really been happy with that tone. 1 Quote
ped Posted March 29, 2021 Author Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 14:51, Stingray5 said: @ped that second number, "Livin' On Love", put me very much in mind of one of my all-time fave bands, Little Feat. The feel and groove and even a touch of slide guitar. So I checked out the credits and, blow me down if one of the co-writers of that song isn't Craig Fuller who was a member of 'Feat from 1988-1996. Loved the bass on both tracks btw - right in the pocket! Expand Ah that's great - I love it when that happens. I think I only found Shemeka through Dr. John - using DIscogs instead of Spotify, old skool. I'm also a Feat fan, and I discovered them because Warren Hayes with Govt Mule covered 'On Your Way Down' with Sonny Landreth! Govt Mule's Deep End/Deepest End albums are a brilliant window into tons of artists (Different bassist on every track). 1 Quote
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 (edited) Really like that @ped - thanks for sharing. The tone reminded me a little of this, which I love. Not sure who it is or what bass is being played, but I know I like it. EDIT: Dug my CD out and it's Peter Carter on bass. Doesn't really add anything as I don't know anything else he's done 🤷♂️. Edited March 29, 2021 by hiram.k.hackenbacker 2 Quote
Reggaebass Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 Not a song but for a nice jazz bass sound I like this video from, vintage guitar Oldenburg, he demos lots of the basses they have , great sound from the 62 6 Quote
ped Posted March 29, 2021 Author Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 16:09, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Really like that @ped - thanks for sharing. The tone reminded me a little of this, which I love. Not sure who it is or what bass is being played, but I know I like it. EDIT: Dug my CD out and it's Peter Carter on bass. Doesn't really add anything as I don't know anything else he's done 🤷♂️. Expand Cool tune!! That sounds like the back pickup of a 60s jazz to me, very tight and funky. 1 Quote
Cuzzie Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 Nice tune @ped thanks for sharing that - her voice and phrasing reminds me a lot of Ann Peebles who is one of my fave artists 1 Quote
ped Posted March 29, 2021 Author Posted March 29, 2021 Another thing I like about David’s playing (I call him Dave, we’re mates) is that he plays a 4 string tuned to drop D, which I always do too - it makes his lines easier for me to play but mostly only cool people play in D 2 Quote
Cuzzie Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 17:52, ped said: Another thing I like about David’s playing (I call him Dave, we’re mates) is that he plays a 4 string tuned to drop D, which I always do too - it makes his lines easier for me to play but mostly only cool people play in D Expand For which i am a firm club member 1 Quote
ped Posted March 29, 2021 Author Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 18:15, Cuzzie said: For which i am a firm club member Expand Good lad. I’ve always done it I think, feels really weird playing in E. strangely fine switching to a 5 string though but then again my five string is 16” scale so that’s the least of my worries 1 Quote
Cuzzie Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 18:42, ped said: Good lad. I’ve always done it I think, feels really weird playing in E. strangely fine switching to a 5 string though but then again my five string is 16” scale so that’s the least of my worries Expand A lot of my fave artists were in drop D, so its a natural ear for me and its really freeing in how you get about. I do have a hip shot on my fave basses just for ease, but its always drop D usually down half or a whole step as well 1 Quote
Mister RLP Posted March 29, 2021 Posted March 29, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 16:16, Reggaebass said: Not a song but for a nice jazz bass sound I like this video from, vintage guitar Oldenburg, he demos lots of the basses they have , great sound from the 62 Expand This is rather good. Great tone. Stumbled on this whilst watching the above vid. Would really love to be able to play like this. Good to find out he is a pro. Don't feel so bad now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3U-QNIYqXM 2 Quote
ped Posted March 30, 2021 Author Posted March 30, 2021 Yeah it does sound nice - it’s definitely a more ‘plummy’ sound than the 70s spacing. I just don’t gel with it as much. Quote
Reggaebass Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 On 29/03/2021 at 23:08, Mister RLP said: This is rather good. Great tone. Stumbled on this whilst watching the above vid. Would really love to be able to play like this. Good to find out he is a pro. Don't feel so bad now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3U-QNIYqXM Expand I didn’t know he was a pro, I came across him a few years back when I went to look at a 65 jazz, I was reading up on the jazz and this video came up 2 Quote
Mister RLP Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Sorry, it was the chap in my link who is the pro. Can't seem to find a way to attach the YouTube clip to the post. Any ideas? Wondering how he makes it look so effortless. Lots of ghost notes? Edit : Youtube: 'Share', 'Copy' Basschat : 'Paste' That's all, Folks. Edited March 30, 2021 by Dad3353 Quote
Mister RLP Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Quote Wondering how he makes it look so effortless. Lots of ghost notes? Edit : Youtube: 'Share', 'Copy' Basschat : 'Paste' That's all, Folks. Expand Brilliant. Thanks for sorting this out. Will give it a go. 1 Quote
ped Posted March 30, 2021 Author Posted March 30, 2021 On 30/03/2021 at 19:42, Mister RLP said: Brilliant. Thanks for sorting this out. Will give it a go. Expand When you paste the link it might paste it in a different font which will prevent it embedding, so look out for a little bar that appears at the bottom of the reply window where you can click ‘paste as plain text’ which will then sort it 1 Quote
Dad3353 Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 On 30/03/2021 at 19:47, ped said: When you paste the link... Expand Clever-clogs..! 1 Quote
Geek99 Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 On 30/03/2021 at 17:35, Mister RLP said: Sorry, it was the chap in my link who is the pro. Can't seem to find a way to attach the YouTube clip to the post. Any ideas? Wondering how he makes it look so effortless. Lots of ghost notes? Edit : Youtube: 'Share', 'Copy' Basschat : 'Paste' That's all, Folks. Expand So ridiculously talented, if I’d started practicing before I was born I still wouldn’t be that good 1 Quote
Mister RLP Posted March 30, 2021 Posted March 30, 2021 Quote So ridiculously talented, if I’d started practicing before I was born I still wouldn’t be that good Expand I tried transcribing this today so that I could try and play it. Nope. No chance. Here's his website... http://www.rogiervanwegberg.com ...and who he has played bass with: http://www.rogiervanwegberg.com/artists.html 2 Quote
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