Bean9seventy Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Decided to share out this early 1960s footage of Slap , tho not on Bass its actually on guitar , this footage goes back to 1968 from the movie Performance ,, Question ? can anyone find any earlier footage without going into rockabilly upright concert bass , cheers " B970 https://youtu.be/jJ6AjE3Gcw8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I hope you're not being serious. That's a song called 'The lady in my Life' from Michael Jackson's Thriller album, which was recorded in 1982. The bass player was Steve Lukather. 🙂 However, it would be interesting to find the earliest genuine footage of the genesis of slap playing. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 What's with the music? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, musicbassman said: I hope you're not being serious. That's a song called 'The lady in my Life' from Michael Jackson's Thriller album, which was recorded in 1982. The bass player was Steve Lukather. 🙂 However, it would be interesting to find the earliest genuine footage of the genesis of slap playing. 👍 after watching the movie i couldn't get the sound & vision out of my mind ,, when learning & uploading the above said MJ joint ,, with your extra detailed info of who recorded the bass line ( i am jamming over the top of the steve lukather bassling btw ) i had to do a meme ,, the point is Jagger is clearly slap & popping the guitar in the movie, its some kind of dark blues thing ,, yet we see the slap pop in sight the right way ,, the mission is to find any earlier footage ,, if not ,, then 1968 is the earliest slap recorded visually so far ,, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: What's with the music? 😂 its a meme ,,, 5 hours ago, musicbassman said: I hope you're not being serious. That's a song called 'The lady in my Life' from Michael Jackson's Thriller album, which was recorded in 1982. The bass player was Steve Lukather. 🙂 However, it would be interesting to find the earliest genuine footage of the genesis of slap playing. 👍 if you find the raw video of Performance ,, the movie, & listen to Jagger ,, who plays some blues tune from the abyss ,, you will note & hear Jagger clearly slaps & pops the guitar ,, its 1968 12 years before Level42 & Shakatak ,, its right,, the mission is to find anything earlier,? if not 1968 is the earliest possible year where slap was recorded visually so far , i put MJ music as a mod con over the top because that's how "the meme" materialized cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I'm not sure what you're getting at with the meme thing 😆 Can you post the original clip? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I have no idea what's going on Did Lukather really play bass on that track? Thought it was Louis Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) What about this more modern technique dating back to 1965... Edited March 30, 2021 by Hellzero 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Ok, now for the slap thing, Larry Graham who is considered to have invented the slap technique as we know it has developed it in ... 1960 and used it on the first record of Sly and the Family Stone in 1967, so before this pseudo 1968 footage. The band started touring in 1966 with Larry Graham already slapping on electric bass. Here's Larry Graham himself explaining the genesis of the modern slap technique and especially why: He used the slap intensively on the next album called Dance to the Music and released in 1968. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1969 hit Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) with pop and slap : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 While LG can be considered the Godfather of electric slappery, I don't think you can ignore the Father: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Manuel_Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 @Ricky 4000 The OP doesn't want any double bass slap in here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Hellzero said: @Ricky 4000 The OP doesn't want any double bass slap in here. I know, but can it be ignored? I love LG's playing, but there's no way he hadn't heard the slap (double) bass sound before he 'invented' doing it on the electrical bass... 🦄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Of course @Ricky 4000 that's more than obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) JJ Cale's Mama didn't want no guitar bass drumming piano reefer but that didn't stop anyone from doing all of those things... AND... all at the same time. So there. Edited March 30, 2021 by SpondonBassed 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hellzero said: Of course @Ricky 4000 that's more than obvious. It goes without saying, as you might say. 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Hellzero said: What about this more modern technique dating back to 1965... nice video ,, 1 million % truly amazing guitarist ,, tho not actually popping nor thumbing ,, ;D 10 out of 10 for trying ,, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 13 hours ago, ped said: I have no idea what's going on Did Lukather really play bass on that track? Thought it was Louis Johnson not sure ,, the above guy called musicbassman called out the name ,, i just took it for granted , forgetting louis johnson got most of the MJ gigs ,, thanks for putting the train back on the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Ricky 4000 said: I know, but can it be ignored? I love LG's playing, but there's no way he hadn't heard the slap (double) bass sound before he 'invented' doing it on the electrical bass... 🦄 yes ,, think most know about double bass slap ,, tho admit i do wear my jealous hat ,, when i see some of those rocker billys slap ,, still 1968 ,, yet a great video from 1955 ,,, amazing guitarist ,,, he did everything but pop & slap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 11 hours ago, Hellzero said: 1969 hit Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) with pop and slap : yep ,, this tune is quoted by many ,, nevertheless am certain it was recorded some years after 1968 ,, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Hellzero said: Ok, now for the slap thing, Larry Graham who is considered to have invented the slap technique as we know it has developed it in ... 1960 and used it on the first record of Sly and the Family Stone in 1967, so before this pseudo 1968 footage. The band started touring in 1966 with Larry Graham already slapping on electric bass. Here's Larry Graham himself explaining the genesis of the modern slap technique and especially why: He used the slap intensively on the next album called Dance to the Music and released in 1968. yet the above video of larry "explaining" how to slap is from 1980 ,,, in fact there are no videos of any funk "bass lessons" before that date of 1980 ,, some 20 years after larry 1st did it its one of the reasons why i am doing this binary blog ,, eg there isn't even really any significant footage of larry slapping at woodstock in 1969 its not who played it ,, we all know larry invented it ,,, its when was it 1st recorded visually so far its 1968 ,, checkmate ,, thanks Edited March 31, 2021 by Bean9seventy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: I'm not sure what you're getting at with the meme thing 😆 Can you post the original clip? Mick Jagger - Me & the Devil Blues - youtube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barkin Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 19 hours ago, ped said: I have no idea what's going on Me neither. And I'd no idea what a meme is/was, so I looked it up thinking all would become clear. It didn't... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) @Bean9seventy Are you a revisionist ? Or maybe a conspiracy revisionist ? It's so hype today, I know... You have all the proofs before your eyes that, at least, one person was playing slap before 1968 on a bass. Do you understand what is written in all the comments here, because it seems that you don't ? I clearly wrote : "What about this more modern technique dating back to 1965..." Here, the more modern technique is referring to tapping not slapping. That said who gives a f*ck about knowing who was the first to use slap... You know some unknown manouche guitarist certainly did some slap on his guitar way back in the 1940's without knowing that he invented a new technique. Even if you have footage and evidences of the fact that Larry Graham already played slap in 1960, you'll keep denying the facts, because you've found that 1968 footage of a guitarist slapping a note (that nobody here can see) on a 1982 tune !?! Did he also invent that DeLorean time machine ? And about the fact that there's no slap bass lesson video before 1980, urm, urm, do you know that these lessons were written lessons in magazines, in the early days... Check this, but I guess you'll say it was recorded this year, no ? Edited March 31, 2021 by Hellzero YouTube common issue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binky_bass Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Can we all just agree that I invented slap in 1362? I went back in time in my hot dog powered time machine and funked so hard that all the hobbits grew into normal sized people, this is actually why there are no hobbits left today. There, problem solved. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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