Hellzero Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I'm giving up. Your comments are a nightmare to read and a total mess. Can't you write simple sentences with a subject, a verb and a complement alongside the correct punctuation ? If you have a message to pass, you have to learn the communication skills needed to do so, otherwise you'll loose all credibility. Synthesise your thoughts, read and understand other users comments, ... and think before writing : everyone will thank you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Bean9seventy said: nice hippy gig ,, there is a band from japan i found on youtube getting some slap down on the old grey whistle test from 1976 ,,, will try to surf & find that , cheers Hippy? That's a generation out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 However, as far as earliest goes, here's something from 1954. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 This pseudo stream of consciousness is getting really hard to understand... over and out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Hellzero said: I'm giving up. Your comments are a nightmare to read and a total mess. Can't you write simple sentences with a subject, a verb and a complement alongside the correct punctuation ? If you have a message to pass, you have to learn the communication skills needed to do so, otherwise you'll loose all credibility. Synthesise your thoughts, read and understand other users comments, ... and think before writing : everyone will thank you. i am a street funk bass player ,, besides i think everything has been said on this topic ,, many enjoined it ,, understood the angle ,, will return with another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, prowla said: However, as far as earliest goes, here's something from 1954. insane as the movie when Charlie Parker ran on stage trying to storm the band ,,, ?? how a simple new york be bop turn around turned into "southern be bop" , aka rock n roll & eventually pop music ?? ,, that happened probably faster than larry graham did to disco music ,, ;D many reasons why double bass jazz was omitted ,, yet contribution accepted ,, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said: i am a street funk bass player ,, besides i think everything has been said on this topic ,, many enjoined it ,, understood the angle ,, will return with another I can't wait... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, prowla said: Hippy? That's a generation out! 1970s was weird dude ,, funk is a street thing , big city thing , hippy's were nice people they liked it funky man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Bean9seventy said: 1970s was weird dude ,, funk is a street thing , big city thing , hippy's were nice people they liked it funky man Hippies were 60s - long gone by the mid-70s. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, prowla said: However, as far as earliest goes, here's something from 1954. I love the first YouTube post....👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, prowla said: Hippies were 60s - long gone by the mid-70s. 1970s hippies ? probably over shadowed by glam rock & counting, obviously heavy rock , think 70s hippy's were into progressive rock plus , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said: insane as the movie when Charlie Parker ran on stage trying to storm the band ,,, ?? how a simple new york be bop turn around turned into "southern be bop" , aka rock n roll & eventually pop music ?? ,, that happened probably faster than larry graham did to disco music ,, ;D many reasons why double bass jazz was omitted ,, yet contribution accepted ,, thanks Aye - maybe omitted in the OP, but actually is at least as relevant as the guitar link there; based on that, I'd say that the funkers merely reinterpreted what already existed. Since the guitar angle is allowed, though, it could simply be inferred to be interpretations of Flamenco guitar playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, lowdown said: I love the first YouTube post....👍 That was pretty cool, wasn't it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, lowdown said: I can't wait... probably go into chat about method Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said: 1970s hippies ? probably over shadowed by glam rock & counting, obviously heavy rock , think 70s hippy's were into progressive rock plus , Nah - Proggers were post- hippies. Certainly jazz-rock (Bruford, Stanley Clark, Weather Report, Colosseum II, Chic Corea, Alphonso Johnson) was pretty far from being hippy stuff and some of it spanned into funk & disco. Edited April 3, 2021 by prowla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, prowla said: Aye - maybe omitted in the OP, but actually is at least as relevant as the guitar link there; based on that, I'd say that the funkers merely reinterpreted what already existed. Since the guitar angle is allowed, though, it could simply be inferred to be interpretations of Flamenco guitar playing. slap bass on upright was bop n jazz as clearly explained in you recent post ,, thanks think funk bass as we know it, leans towards delta blues ,, mid west picking ,, hendrix , you know ?? john lee hooker ,, muddy walters that rabbit hole ,, the street ,, the farm house etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 It's difficult to tell if Fred Thomas played thumb/slap back in the day, but he certainly did later on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, prowla said: Nah - Proggers were post- hippies. Certainly jazz-rock (Bruford, Stanley Clark, Weather Report, Colosseum II, Chic Corea, Alphonso Johnson) was pretty far from being hippy stuff and some of it spanned into funk & disco. call it the "" Janek Gwizdala Syndrome "" yes there was a circuit of hippys ,,, rough name not exact ,, who in many ways were for running "world music" then one day disco went mega viral ,, world wide ,, the disco explosion changed everything & its shining star was ?? BASS ?? Janek Gwizdala & those guys never seem to get the "viral ness" of disco ,, Funk Jazz quickly became Jazz Funk & made Fusion, the stuff Gwizdala plays wine bar music by the 1980s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On the prog side, though known as a pick player, Chris Squire had a percussive technique where he'd hit the note a second time with the edge of his thumb. Not exactly funkaholic, but a sideline to the development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, prowla said: On the prog side, though known as a pick player, Chris Squire had a percussive technique where he'd hit the note a second time with the edge of his thumb. Not exactly funkaholic, but a sideline to the development. Chris Squire great bass player ,,, because i do not have much money, i never go in shops & pull their best Rickenbacker off the shelf ,, he always springs to mind if i do , my own customized Bootsy Rickenbacker as always been on my fantasy wish list , thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, prowla said: It's difficult to tell if Fred Thomas played thumb/slap back in the day, but he certainly did later on. find the movie footage is the topic ,, else we might get someone with notes from Plato saying he plucked the notes out of the air ,, 1632 the earliest yarn so far , thanks , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said: call it the "" Janek Gwizdala Syndrome "" yes there was a circuit of hippys ,,, rough name not exact ,, who in many ways were for running "world music" then one day disco went mega viral ,, world wide ,, the disco explosion changed everything & its shining star was ?? BASS ?? Janek Gwizdala & those guys never seem to get the "viral ness" of disco ,, Funk Jazz quickly became Jazz Funk & made Fusion, the stuff Gwizdala plays wine bar music by the 1980s Not quite sure how Janek Gwizdala fits into this, seeing as he wasn't even born until 1978... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bean9seventy said: find the movie footage is the topic ,, else we might get someone with notes from Plato saying he plucked the notes out of the air ,, 1632 the earliest yarn so far , thanks , if Janek Gwizdala & co bassists reads this ,, yes i met the guy in Denmark St ,, tho at the time i never knew it was him ,, if Disco went even more viral than it did ,, the royal family would have been "air slapping" level 42 bass on the balcony on weddings & party's etc ,, bear minimum doing the travolta disco pose : D disco gave Bass to the world ,,& only then did they realize it was a band many mainly knew too ,, similar to stevie wonder ,, Sly & the family Stone , it was their bass player who 1st did it a guy called larry graham ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rich said: Not quite sure how fits into this, seeing as he wasn't even born until 1978... the Janek Gwizdala crew of bass players & coffee drinkers see the history of bass in a different way , which is another reason why i am doing this thread ,, larry graham invented it ,, bootsy tried to spread it ,, but , it wasn't until a euro type pop disco tune went mega viral ,,, that everybody wanted to do it ,, BASS we have been nodding our heads ever since ,, yes the guys in demark st saw us both rambling,, Janek Gwizdala met someone who had played funk from beyond 1978 ,, i stood my ground & said roughly "Paul Tubbs Williams" is who you should respect not a bag of big names who mean a hill of beans to no one , i was certain in this encounter he never knew even who tubbsy was let alone the relevance ,, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bean9seventy Posted April 3, 2021 Author Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Bean9seventy said: the Janek Gwizdala crew of bass players & coffee drinkers see the history of bass in a different way , which is another reason why i am doing this thread ,, larry graham invented it ,, bootsy tried to spread it ,, but , it wasn't until a euro type pop disco tune went mega viral ,,, that everybody wanted to do it ,, BASS we have been nodding our heads ever since ,, yes the guys in demark st saw us both rambling,, Janek Gwizdala met someone who had played funk from beyond 1978 ,, i stood my ground & said roughly "Paul Tubbs Williams" is who you should respect not a bag of big names who mean a hill of beans to no one , i was certain in this encounter he never knew even who tubbsy was let alone the relevance ,, thanks Janek Gwizdala will call larry graham as an inspiration ,, so what about any UK larry grahams ? who is the UKs larry graham or louis johnson or bootsy or james brown ?? surly we had some in the 1970s man ? ,, what about those very 1st gigs in the uk ""all about bass"" , before level42 ,, before people knew about jaco ,, jaco ?/ was into world music before disco Guys ,, lol our nick name for jaco lol ,, is LOL " the failed disco bass player " , ,:D ok ? dig that why >> because no one bother book jaco for a disco tune ,lol ,, thread pt3 find me a jaco disco song played in studio 54 lol ,lol before people knew it was jaco on bass ,, ps i nominate "" Paul Tubbs Williams "" even tho he may not be the 1st as The Uks answer to Larry Graham ,, BLADE RUNNER THE TRUTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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