RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 During lockdown , I'm finally getting to grips with the Grandomther 😸 . A few weeks ago, I decided to get a DFAM . Love it . I noticed that that the above has just been released . Either DFAM with mother32 or Subharmonicon . Times are hard, and the sound studio bundle is not cheap. Plus the artwork to me looks to be on th kiddie side of things . However, with the idea of the dice 🎲🎲 and the mixer it looks more fun and less daunting to use and things seem more immediate to me . Plus I could have thus setup in either the front room or in the small music room . As I have the grandmother and DFAM , is it best to step away and carry on with what I have , or treat it like basses where maybe I should have this . 😼 Any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I've got a Mother 32 so the DFAM/Subharmonicon bundle is a pretty good deal and very tempting. Just need to clear my CC balance. Not sure it's worth it for you as you have the DFAM. You can just make your own dice connections chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 Thanks bartleby. I noticed quite a lot of dfams on sale on fleabay over the last few weeks . I wouldn't be surprised if those sellers are going for the moog studio bundle . At the back of my mind , was to sell my dfam and put it towards the studio bundle . Good point about the dice . If there is a download on the moog website for various patches, I could try to mimic them on the grandmother . I'm still tempted , but if there was a Black Friday sale on , that may be best time to get them . Having said all of that , I've still got loads to learn on the grandmother .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 Well, another thought has popped into my head .. As I already have the dfam, I would only need the mother 32 ( or su harmonic on ) The mother has a midi socket and is slightly cheaper . Obviously , if I did that it would be an eBay purchase . Plus the only other thing I'd need is the stand to put them in . Again , another eBay purchase . I could do without the posters . I already have a mixer, and if I want to plug it into my stereo I can also . I have patch leads , and there is never enough of those . Then I'd just get the dice 🎲🎲 If moog decided to put some presets on their website, that would be handy also . The only real drawback from this more budget solution , is that you still need 2 things to be plugged into the mains instead of one . Anyhow , more comments appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 The Subharmonicon has midi in on a trs jack. I guess you need to see how the Grandmother compares with the Mother32 and Subharmonicon and get whichever offers the most versatility. The M32 sounds nice, but once oscillator with 2 waveforms means it's quite limited sound wise, obviously you can go mad patching it to different things. In your position I'd probably go with the Subharmonicon. DFAM from 'drums', Gmother for lead stuff and the Sub for the bassier end of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 Thanks again Bartleby. Yeah , the more I see about the mother 32 , the less enticing it seems . Thankfully , I have the grandmother which is the most expensive . Lockdown has managed to get my head around it . The subharmonicon is the dearest out of the other 3 . The way you just mentioned the setup sounds like the way to go . This seems like my moog setup would be complete . I was looking at minitaur for a few years , but it seems that the when I got the grandmother I didn't need it . Now that the subharmonicon is released , that would do the low end job anyway . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I would think it would be crazy to get that when you already have most of it. The stand for two things, the simple mixer and a two way power adapter are small numbers of pounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: Thanks again Bartleby. Yeah , the more I see about the mother 32 , the less enticing it seems . Thankfully , I have the grandmother which is the most expensive . Lockdown has managed to get my head around it . The subharmonicon is the dearest out of the other 3 . The way you just mentioned the setup sounds like the way to go . This seems like my moog setup would be complete . I was looking at minitaur for a few years , but it seems that the when I got the grandmother I didn't need it . Now that the subharmonicon is released , that would do the low end job anyway . But the Minitaur does sound so nice! The band Hot Snakes use one to reinforce the low end during parts of some songs. When they do it live it's bloody awesome! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Woodinblack said: I would think it would be crazy to get that when you already have most of it. The stand for two things, the simple mixer and a two way power adapter are small numbers of pounds. Good point woodinblack. I don't think you're able to get the mixer or their 2 way power adapter separately , as far as I can see. If I could, then that would be the better option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, bartelby said: But the Minitaur does sound so nice! The band Hot Snakes use one to reinforce the low end during parts of some songs. When they do it live it's bloody awesome! Yes, it sounds great . Much more practical than the Taurus pedal in my small room . Plus it has presets . Funny enough, I haven't seen any videos of anyone plugging a bass into it 😼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: Good point woodinblack. I don't think you're able to get the mixer or their 2 way power adapter separately , as far as I can see. If I could, then that would be the better option Maybe not official moog ones, but equivalent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 Update : After watching more you tube clips on the sound studio and indeed the subharmonican , I decided against either of those . I decided against the mother -32 also . However...after seeing one particular item on the bay for a price that would be niggling me if I let it go, I have just pulled the trigger and a Moog Minitaur is now on its way to me . 🙀 Apparently only a month old , with Decksaver fully boxed with instructions etc I'll get the wooden brackets from somewhere at some stage , and potentially the stand . I don't want to go the euro rack route , and tbh I think that will be it as far as my analogue hardware instruments go . Of course I have lots of iPad apps etc but buying moogs and decent synths can be very dangerous . So in conclusion , I have Grandmother / DFAM / and minitaur to come . Any more thoughts welcome .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Well, if you really want a big moog system, look what behringer have done now... https://www.behringer.com/series.html?category=R-BEHRINGER-SYSTEM-15-35-55SERIES 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 £2700 for a complete system 55. About 1/15th of a Moog system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 That would pass a bit of time wiring that up for your ELP cover band! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 15 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Well, if you really want a big moog system, look what behringer have done now... https://www.behringer.com/series.html?category=R-BEHRINGER-SYSTEM-15-35-55SERIES Wow! There wouldn't be time for bass guitar or anything else . Probabky got the entire krautrock back catalogue in there somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 Another update : Minitaur arrived this morning promptly via parcelfarce 👍 I briefly plugged it in and plugged the dfam into it via headphones . No sound , although I will properly setup later and fingers crossed all will be well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 After using the dfam, grandmother and minitaur for a while now , I finally realised that I don't need the sound studio after all . I know I said that above .. When I finally setup the correct positioning of the dfam on a homemade stand , I was able to connect the various patch cables a lot easier . This meant there was no need for a euro rack stand. The mixer I have is adequate . If I were to get the studio bundle , it would have been the mother 32 , and not the harmonicon. The harmonicon doesn't appeal to me . The mother 32 has more sockets for patch cables and looked easier to programme than the grandmother initially . Having said that and after looking at various you tube vids, it seems like I've now got the hang of using the dfam and grandmother together and I'm not missing out on anything really . Apart from a few more sockets on the mother 32. Now I see there is an updated release of the sound studio for ..£2,000 approx with harmonicon/dfam / mother 32 Not for me ! There have been 2 sellers on eBay selling the moog sound studio for £850 . ( dfam and grandmother ) pretty much mint condition . I did for a moment or 2 think about buying them and selling my dfam ( which means that I would have the moog bundle for approx £400 Having said all of that , I think that I can live without the kiddie posters and cartoon cutouts and stick with what I've got. I am wondering why moog have released this latest version of the sound bundle so soon . Poor sales?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: After using the dfam, grandmother and minitaur for a while now , I finally realised that I don't need the sound studio after all . What kind of nonsense is this?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted September 15, 2021 Author Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, bartelby said: What kind of nonsense is this?? In a nutshell , I'm happy with my setup and dodged a bullet by not being swayed by getting something I more or less already have . I could or maybe should have started another thread , but in a way my last post more or less finishes this one . Some things are easier to explain in person rather than typing 😸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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