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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174748193568?hash=item28afcdd320:g:3HsAAOSwTF1gh90l

 

This is a curious listing. The seller seems to sell loads of vintage gear - including has recently sold a set of tuners for over a grand, and a Beatles first pressing for a similar amount. The bass itself looks ancient - I particularly enjoy the home made contouring :) The penciled in dates at the neck pocket and heel seem to have held up rather well in comparison to the rest of the instrument...

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Given that the ad is for the body only, the headstock shape is irrelevant. H appears to have used it to make a bitsa. Fair enough and he isn't trying to claim the whole bass is a '51.

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22 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

Given that the ad is for the body only, the headstock shape is irrelevant. H appears to have used it to make a bitsa. Fair enough and he isn't trying to claim the whole bass is a '51.

But he’s marked the neck as 1951 in pencil on the bottom?

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5 hours ago, AndyTravis said:

But he’s marked the neck as 1951 in pencil on the bottom?

He has indeed and that is a valid criticism. I'm sure it's not from 1951 and I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft sterilised barge pole. However, it doesn't alter the fact that, as the neck is not being sold, talk of the headstock being the wrong shape is a bit pointless.

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Strangely enough upon first viewing I hadn't noticed it was only the body for sale. Not to say the seller hasn't made that clear I just hope any bidders don't make the same mistake. It just struck me as an usual example of a vintage guitar particularly given the contouring work and the low bids so far. Full disclosure I know absolutely nothing of 50s basses to say if this it legit or not. Was just curious about other opinions!

The main thing I wanted to know was if it was normal for these basses to have pencilled in dates? I know 60s ones seem to have have ink ones which tend to be quite worn out. These strike me as quite clear. Then again if I was trying to pass something off as older than it really is I would at least smudge it a bit. Not casting doubt just genuinely curious 

 

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21 hours ago, Welshbassist said:

Strangely enough upon first viewing I hadn't noticed it was only the body for sale. Not to say the seller hasn't made that clear I just hope any bidders don't make the same mistake. It just struck me as an usual example of a vintage guitar particularly given the contouring work and the low bids so far. Full disclosure I know absolutely nothing of 50s basses to say if this it legit or not. Was just curious about other opinions!

The main thing I wanted to know was if it was normal for these basses to have pencilled in dates? I know 60s ones seem to have have ink ones which tend to be quite worn out. These strike me as quite clear. Then again if I was trying to pass something off as older than it really is I would at least smudge it a bit. Not casting doubt just genuinely curious 

 

I read somewhere that workers at the Fender factory originally wrote dates on the necks/neck pockets of instruments. That was replaced with rubber stamping them when a buyer found a rude message written on one.

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22 hours ago, Dan Dare said:

He has indeed and that is a valid criticism. I'm sure it's not from 1951 and I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft sterilised barge pole. However, it doesn't alter the fact that, as the neck is not being sold, talk of the headstock being the wrong shape is a bit pointless.

I didn’t read the Ad.

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