BassAdder60 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Why and when do you use a bass mute ? The kind that sits just in front of the nut I have one but I’m not sure why it would be an advantage to use it ? Quote
Reggaebass Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Do you mean a fret wrap , It cuts down the overtones of the open strings and stops them ringing out 🙂 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 14, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: maybe a sweatband around the nut could be handy I used miss RB’s hair bands for years before Fretwraps came out , she wasn’t too pleased sometimes 😁 2 Quote
BassAdder60 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 So would you see a benefit live or is it really a studio thing ? I can see the open string advantage but have not considered it to be an issue live and not using one Quote
Sibob Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, BassAdder27 said: have not considered it to be an issue live and not using one Don't use one then Si Quote
ead Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 I occasionally stick a bit of quite squishy foam up against the bridge when I'm seeking to emulate the upright tone. 1 Quote
Jus Lukin Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 14, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote
bassment73 Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 I occasionally use a Nordymute on my bass that is strung with flatwounds, as it allows you to get that palm muted tone, whilst having the freedom of playing fingerstyle. I guess it's emulating what old fenders with the foam mute under the bridge covers sounded like. If I'm playing old Jamerson lines I'll use the Nordymute: https://nordstrandaudio.com/products/nordymute Quote
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 I've never used the kind that sits by the nut, and probably never will as I don't go in for slap tap or similar party tricks. I've never got on with foam at the bridge end as it either deadens too much or not enough for me. I tend to use palm muting where I can control the pressure on the string with more precision. Quote
Killed_by_Death Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 This a mute: pros use it to make roundwounds sound like flats Quote
NikNik Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 (edited) I use one over the saddles between the cover on my '51 bitsa. Edited May 8, 2021 by NikNik 1 Quote
Stingray64 Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 I only use a fret wrap when I’m playing John Davis style dub bass because it allows me to tweak effects and perform more without having to prioritise constant perfect muting that would mess up the octave pedal tracking. Quote
YeastieB Posted May 8, 2021 Posted May 8, 2021 I use a cut off from an extra-thick Minky Sponge as it is just the right height to fit under my Jazz bass strings. But you can use anything, didn't Tony Levin use a nappy during the recording of Don't Give Up with Peter Gabriel. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Extra-Thick-Sponge-Wipes/dp/B009R0HI86/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=extra+thick+minky+sponge&qid=1620504618&sr=8-1 Quote
goingdownslow Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: This a mute: I thought you were referring to Carol.... then the second picture loaded. Quote
BoomTing Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: pros use it to make roundwounds sound like flats Think You will find Carol only uses Flats the (bridge) mute is to cut overtones. Edited May 9, 2021 by BoomTing Quote
Killed_by_Death Posted May 9, 2021 Posted May 9, 2021 Carol notoriously uses flats & a pick. Leland Sklar says he prefers rounds, because if he wants them to sound like flats he can just use a mute. 1 Quote
TheLowDown Posted May 11, 2021 Posted May 11, 2021 I prefer not to use 'crutches' because I think muting should come from the player. The only time I think they come in handy is for tapping or slapping, but I don't go there. Quote
bassment73 Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) Is it really a 'crutch'. They were factory fitted on the majority of basses from the 50s to the 70s. Removing them was making something different. They allowed you to play fingerstyle with that almost upright bass kind of sound. You can't palm mute and play with fingers at the same time. James Jamerson's sound was all about playing with fingers on flatwound strings muted by the factory foam glued to underside of bridge cover. Whilst I confess that my own personal favourite muted style I play is with palm muting, playing with a pick, soloing the neck pickup, the foam mute is a iconic sound, not a crutch If you're talking about the scrunchie type mute that people use at the nut end, that again is a godsend for players who like to tap at the dusty end, as it kills all those nasty overtones at the lower neck end, that even the best left hand muting can't always cure. My take is that with bass playing, everything is valid. Different strokes for different folks. 😊 Edited May 12, 2021 by bassment73 2 Quote
EssentialTension Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 12 hours ago, TheLowDown said: I prefer not to use 'crutches' because I think muting should come from the player. The only time I think they come in handy is for tapping or slapping, but I don't go there. Do you prefer not to use 'frets' because intonation should come from the player? 2 1 Quote
Doddy Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 12 hours ago, TheLowDown said: I prefer not to use 'crutches' because I think muting should come from the player. The only time I think they come in handy is for tapping or slapping, but I don't go there. So they are a crutch, but they come in handy for tapping and slapping? So, not a crutch then. I don't use the hair tie/fretwrap thing often, although I have them on a couple of my basses. (A hair tie went straight on my bass after aayching Victor Wooten on the Bass Day 98 video). I mainly use them with certain monophonic synth pedals which are sensitive to sympathetic vibrations and tend to glitch at the slightest overtone. 1 Quote
wateroftyne Posted May 12, 2021 Posted May 12, 2021 12 hours ago, TheLowDown said: I prefer not to use 'crutches' because I think muting should come from the player. The only time I think they come in handy is for tapping or slapping, but I don't go there. Jamerson and Babbit would like a quiet word… 2 Quote
TheLowDown Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 10:10, Doddy said: So they are a crutch, but they come in handy for tapping and slapping? So, not a crutch then. I don't use the hair tie/fretwrap thing often, although I have them on a couple of my basses. (A hair tie went straight on my bass after aayching Victor Wooten on the Bass Day 98 video). I mainly use them with certain monophonic synth pedals which are sensitive to sympathetic vibrations and tend to glitch at the slightest overtone. So I would be better using a fretwrap rather than trying to become the best I can be at muting. Fair enough. Quote
TheLowDown Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 On 12/05/2021 at 09:31, EssentialTension said: Do you prefer not to use 'frets' because intonation should come from the player? Well that's one reason why I chose unlined. Quote
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