mazdah Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 The Marshall website no longer has Eden listed as a brand. Looks like they quietly pulled the plug. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) No!! I was at the LBGS where there was a "Noise War" going on between Eden and Aguilar - IMO the Eden sounded streets ahead of the Agi. I don't understand why companies buy up smaller companies just to kill them off. I supposed there must be an economical reason but, please, don't educate me on this - it's just wrong! Edited May 12, 2021 by TheGreek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnDaBass Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheGreek said: Quote I don't understand why companies buy up smaller companies just to kill them off. I supposed there must be an economical reason but it's just wrong! CEO vanity has an influence in the first instance until financial reality hits and quietly papered over. Probably following a review by an outside Consultant who charges £2500 a day and plays golf with the CEO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheGreek said: No!! I was at the LBGS where there was a "Noise War" going on between Eden and Aguilar - IMO the Eden sounded streets ahead of the Agi. I don't understand why companies buy up smaller companies just to kill them off. I supposed there must be an economical reason but, please, don't educate me on this - it's just wrong! I can understand why Fender bought SWR, as they went on to make some pretty good amps using up all that skille and knowledge they acquired, and have kept going albeit in a very non SWR direction. Why Marshall bought Eden I really don't know. They didn't do anything to improve Marshall's bass offering and the Eden stuff seemed to kind of wither since the takeover. They clearly didn't really know what to do with them. Really sad 😭 Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 TE and Genz Benz are more examples of good companies being plopped on from a great height. I bet the list is far more extensive than those I know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBunny Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 That is a surprise as I thought David Nordschow had been lured back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Maybe he’s re-acquired the brand from Marshall then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 looks like it's over now, I clicked on an Eden link from their FB page, the link is from March, here are the results: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 further web-sleuthing gives me: They've also disable commenting on their FB page: https://www.facebook.com/edenamplification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackbass Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I was once briefly an Eden artist, just as Marshall had taken them over. I wanted the WT550 amp and 410XLT. I was told I couldn't have the WT550 and could only get the WTP amps. The 410XLT was incredible, my favourite cab of all time. So responsive, clear and punchy The WTP600 was utter garbage. Worst amp I ever used and just didn't have any real volume. The DI out was terrible. I don't know who designed that amp but it was terrible. During a gig the clip light would be flashing away and eventually would go solid red and would have to turn the amp of and on to stop it from shutting down. I feel like they should've built a lightweight version of the XLT cabs that were still high quality. The original Eden Amps weren't very heavy anyway. It seemed an odd match up between Eden and Marshall. It's still a shame theyve gone tho! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 I had a few Eden 410 cabs, Nemesis and XLT are the ones that I recall the model numbers. Both were great, and the Nemesis was only about 50lbs or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Killed_by_Death said: further web-sleuthing gives me: They've also disable commenting on their FB page: https://www.facebook.com/edenamplification just managed to post on the fb page... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Latest comments are from 9 weeks ago: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40hz Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Another great name mothballed into irrelevance. The WTX I had, had one of the best core tones I've ever heard from an amp. Edited May 13, 2021 by 40hz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 14, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I used an Eden power amp for a while the one with a tone control on each channel. It was a fu*king monster! Sledgehammer power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Several years ago I had to analyse a mountain of company data, which ultimately had to be signed off by the Bank of England... What was obvious when I looked at a breakdown of UK companies by size is that there are a lot of small ones, quite a few big ones, and very few in between. What that tells me is you have a lot of small family businesses and start-ups, but once a company begins to get to medium sized, the big boys step in and buy them out an eliminate the competition. It's bad news as it removes market diversity. It's basically a complex monopoly and needs some serious legislation to deal with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40hz Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 What did Marshall even do with the brand beyond the Terra Nova Series? (If they weren't already a thing before the buyout). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, 40hz said: What did Marshall even do with the brand beyond the Terra Nova Series? (If they weren't already a thing before the buyout). Made effects pedals that needed a different power supply to the usual 9v and when they couldn't sell them for £90 each knocked them out at £30. It's a shame, I've been ogling Eden amps on ebay for quite a while. I quite liked how their styling was really carp but you know there's a really good quality amp in there. I can only hope that Marshall do a more modern version of the Bass State hybrid amps I used to have and the DBS amps I could only dream of playing in my teens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 So recently, that's Trace Elliot, SWR, Eden, Tec Amp... 😨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The DBS range was great, if only Marshall had kept Eden going and somehow integrated the DBS into their range, would have been great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 14, 2022 by Jus Lukin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: The DBS range was great, if only Marshall had kept Eden going and somehow integrated the DBS into their range, would have been great. Yup, that's exactly what they should've done. The little proper solid state WT amps were fantastic and ahead of their time, much like the original Mes Walkabout. If they'd just hung on and developed that idea I think they would still be here. Even better, if Marshall had used that idea and made a more compact, but equally powerful DBS, they might have something to offer bass players too. The battle for Class D dominance has sunk a lot of bass amp manufacturers, either by just not keeping up, or by racing to the bottom Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickJ Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Genuinely sad if Eden's really gone. My first bass combo was an Eden, a really great little unit and I had a nemesis 4*10 for a little while until @King Tut took it off my hands for the Stray tour. Always fancied a WTX head. Never liked the look of the pedals and the Terra Nova range never appealed - I guess these were the Marshall era efforts and seems I wasn't alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Although it’s always sad to see our rig options reduced, I have to say my limited experience of Eden amps is not great. I used to play lead guitar in a band where the bass player was a serial amp buyer, and the Eden head he once used (Class D, gold colour, can’t remember any more) sounded very muddy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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