BassAdder60 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Glennalli said: Late to the party, but I've just ordered the DBV410 from Andertons. Should be getting it tomorrow so will post my opinions after the weekend! Definitely be interested to hear what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I am still thinking on getting the high 410 for my Digbeth. The only thing that I don't like is the weight. Also interested in your review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennalli Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 22 hours ago, gobasserk said: I am still thinking on getting the high 410 for my Digbeth. The only thing that I don't like is the weight. Also interested in your review! I've seen the weight mentioned a few times on this thread, but that doesn't concern me as much, especially when you compare it to other 4ohm 410 cabs its still pretty light in the grand scheme of things. (the Ashdown RM-414-evo comes to mind, which is only 6 kg lighter) Plus after lugging around a Matamp 610 with no wheels around for the past 4 years it'll feel as light as a feather in comparison 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennalli Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) Right so I got the cab yesterday just in time for my bands last show of the year so perfect timing! I'll do a more in depth review in the new year once I've had a chance to do some A/B work with my old cab. Overall I'm impressed! I have a very overdriven tone, but I found the cab to have very punchy mids, and a tight bass response, even when using my bass tuned to Drop B. The highs sung through beautifully, which is something that was missing from my Matamp 610 as they always came through sounding a bit harsh. After playing around with the compression driver I've elected to have it on full, it seemed to lose some bite for me when it was either on half or off, but I'm sure off will suit people who have a less aggressive tone than myself. The only negative I can find is that it really exposes my Digitech Drop pedal. With the Matamp you could tell when it was in use (drop C# to drop B) but it was negligible and once in the mix you could hardly tell at all. With the Laney its night and day when its in use, its just muddy. So the space I'm saving with the smaller cab will be taken up by having to take my 2nd bass. Oh well 🤷♂️ During the show it held up great, sitting in the mix and not getting lost. I did have to roll off the bass ever so slightly as it was a bit much, but that could have been down to the room. As for the weight/portability its great. Yes its still a little bit heavy, but its manageable. I was able to load it into my car and carry it upstairs into our practice space all on my own. For me its a good middle ground, as I prefer taller cabs, but not the weight that comes with them. If you're thinking of buying this, but unsure. IMO pull the trigger, I don't think you'll regret it. Obligatory rig pic attached. Both my basses are Sandberg VM4s (one in Drop C# the other in Drop B) Edited December 18, 2021 by Glennalli 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobasserk Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Thanks for the review! I wonder if the cab might sound even better with the Digbeth Amp on top. Because for the top I can say it sounds very unique / special. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennalli Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, gobasserk said: Thanks for the review! I wonder if the cab might sound even better with the Digbeth Amp on top. Because for the top I can say it sounds very unique / special. You would hope it would, but it sounds fantastic with the MESA D800! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethe666 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hello! I Just bought a digbeth 500, received yesterday and played some hours to try some sounds and Feels. I came from a darkglass alpha omega 900, i was looking for more vintage tones and a "tube-like" tone. Looking in the used market i found some Orange ad200, some old ashdown abm500 for a good price. In the end i got some problems with my car and 1000 euro less in my pocket. With no expectation i ordered the laney, cheaper but good looking, hoping that the andertons demo was "real". In the end i am really Happy, i run it trough my old Dg 2*10 8ohm Cab, the tone Is awesome, volume Is not a problem, you can have a good clean valve tone, no gain control, but FET volume, tube volume and drive. In really Happy and i ll male this change 100 times over and over. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benebass Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Shameless plug - put my DB200H head up for sale. Great sound, but too much power for me at home... https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/463640-laney-digbeth-db200h-head/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, benebass said: Shameless plug - put my DB200H head up for sale. Great sound, but too much power for me at home... https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/463640-laney-digbeth-db200h-head/ I would like to try one of these. Only ever had one Laney amp and it wasn't for me at the time, ages ago now though. But I have a few smaller powered heads already. I think maybe I'll keep my eyes open for one of the bigger ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 hours ago, stewblack said: I would like to try one of these. Only ever had one Laney amp and it wasn't for me at the time, ages ago now though. But I have a few smaller powered heads already. I think maybe I'll keep my eyes open for one of the bigger ones. I am surprised that the NEXUS range never took off, but then Laney's reputation for Bass Gear went before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted April 20, 2022 Author Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 hours ago, stewblack said: I would like to try one of these. Only ever had one Laney amp and it wasn't for me at the time, ages ago now though. But I have a few smaller powered heads already. I think maybe I'll keep my eyes open for one of the bigger ones. Appreciate this is collection only but… another BC relay…? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laney-Digbeth-Series-DB500H-500W-Bass-Amp-Head-/194984392245?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 8 hours ago, Merton said: Appreciate this is collection only but… another BC relay…? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laney-Digbeth-Series-DB500H-500W-Bass-Amp-Head-/194984392245?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Ooh. May have popped up too soon for me, just accidentally bought a bass. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Chienmortbb said: I am surprised that the NEXUS range never took off, but then Laney's reputation for Bass Gear went before them. I wish I'd bought the one that sold here, but couldn't justify it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Just to add to the online catalogue of info for these, I contaced Laney just to confirm what the 2x12 cab was made from. They confirmed it was 15mm Plywood. Edited May 20, 2022 by hamfist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JottoSW1 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 10:36, Chienmortbb said: I am surprised that the NEXUS range never took off, but then Laney's reputation for Bass Gear went before them. The Cabs were really good, which is why I've accumulated a few Light, solid and sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt on your Bass? Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 On 02/04/2022 at 22:47, Sethe666 said: Hello! I Just bought a digbeth 500, received yesterday and played some hours to try some sounds and Feels. I came from a darkglass alpha omega 900, i was looking for more vintage tones and a "tube-like" tone. Looking in the used market i found some Orange ad200, some old ashdown abm500 for a good price. In the end i got some problems with my car and 1000 euro less in my pocket. With no expectation i ordered the laney, cheaper but good looking, hoping that the andertons demo was "real". In the end i am really Happy, i run it trough my old Dg 2*10 8ohm Cab, the tone Is awesome, volume Is not a problem, you can have a good clean valve tone, no gain control, but FET volume, tube volume and drive. In really Happy and i ll male this change 100 times over and over. Hey, I'm looking at a 500 at the moment as a potential back up/ home piece of kit. Is the gain and drive on the amp volume pot responsive? E.g. Can you dial it in overdriven and clean it up to pristine by backing off the input? Thanks very much, ✌️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoBass Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Having recently bought the Digbeth pre (and enjoying it very much!) I’m now considering the 200 or 500 head. Does anyone know what they would put out with an 8ohm cab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoBass Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The very helpful people at Laney confirmed approximately half the watts at 8ohms, which I guess I was expecting. I wonder why some manufacturers have 500w heads at 4ohms and the same head does 300w at 8ohms....more efficient in some way(?).....but no doubt far too technical for my old brain to understand! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, MungoBass said: The very helpful people at Laney confirmed approximately half the watts at 8 ohms, which I guess I was expecting. I wonder why some manufacturers have 500w heads at 4 ohms and the same head does 300w at 8ohms....more efficient in some way(?).....but no doubt far too technical for my old brain to understand! 😁 An amplifier will be able to provide a certain voltage and a certain current. As a general rule, the power at 4 ohms (or lower) will be limited by the available current and at 8 ohms, the power is limited by the voltage available. For example, 500W into 4R (R is the correct abbreviations for ohms) is, 500/4=125. That is the current squared, so the current is just over 11 amps. At 8R, 250/8=so the current is 5.6 to get the voltage, 8Rx5.6Amps=45V approx. So the power supply is capable of a voltage of approx 45V and 11 amps. That is basically a 495watt power supply. All good. If am amp is 500 watts into 4R and say 300 watts in to 8R, then the power supply can only supply 11 amps. If the power supply has a voltage supply of say 49V, then we achieve the 300 watts into 8R. The amplifier is current limited at 4R, in that the power supply cannot supply any more current. Now, the actual voltages will change depending on the topology of the amps, so please do not criticise the maths. A good old class A/B amp will usually run on symmetrical rails, so will be powered by approx +49V and -49V. Some class D amps using BTL or PBTL topology will work on a single voltage rail, but the same principle applies. The power supply will be a determining factor in the overall power output of the amplifier at different impedances. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoBass Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Time to look for a pre-owned Digbeth head! Edited December 18, 2023 by MungoBass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I've a vertical 410 and love it. It much much easier to wheel than you'd think. Lots of handles too if you have to carry. Perfect comprimise for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, MungoBass said: Time to look for a pre-owned Digbeth head! You got me looking 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoBass Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pea Turgh said: You got me looking 😂 Wow! A personal shopping assistant just in time for Christmas! Thank you. However, a 500 head wouldn’t sit on top of my little cab! There would be far too much overhang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 hours ago, MungoBass said: Wow! A personal shopping assistant just in time for Christmas! Thank you. However, a 500 head wouldn’t sit on top of my little cab! There would be far too much overhang! 😂. They are actually small - 205mm x 420mm x 220mm. It would look great atop my BF Two10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoBass Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Pea Turgh said: 😂. They are actually small - 205mm x 420mm x 220mm. It would look great atop my BF Two10. That would seem like a great pairing! Unfortunately, my cab is only 300mm wide, so I am limited to the 200 head, unless I change the cab! Also, the 500 head weighs more than my cab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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