stewblack Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 Oh and I suspect I've been spoilt by years of playing big stages with proper PA support. It didn't matter a fig what my amp sounded like - only I could hear it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Old Horse Murphy said: Amen. I've had a number of sound checks where the Bass in particular sounds awful, thin and quiet. It's a totally different story when there are people in the room. Our engineer always refers to the audience as ‘meat baffles’...... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 At last gig I played in June, the engineer actually asked me to turn up (gasp!). He didn't DI my bass, he actually recorded me with a mic in front of the amp. He recorded the gig for the festival we we playing, as they were streaming the gig online. My bass (my MIJ Precision through a Markbass CMD 121) sounded absolutely fantastic in the video - loud and fat and punchy. I later found out he is a bass player himself. You don't find engineers like that every day. I thought about kidnapping him and keeping him in my basement. Trouble is, I don't have a basement This is him https://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevie-cossar-b04347106 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmedunc Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, gjones said: At last gig I played in June, the engineer actually asked me to turn up (gasp!). He didn't DI my bass, he actually recorded me with a mic in front of the amp. He recorded the gig for the festival we we playing, as they were streaming the gig online. My bass (my MIJ Precision through a Markbass CMD 121) sounded absolutely fantastic in the video - loud and fat and punchy. I later found out he is a bass player himself. You don't find engineers like that every day. I thought about kidnapping him and keeping him in my basement. Trouble is, I don't have a basement This is him https://uk.linkedin.com/in/stevie-cossar-b04347106 I have two weeks holiday coming up and a Spear and Jackson number 5 with a gilt handle shovel itching to dig a basement 😂 Edited July 18, 2021 by itsmedunc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, itsmedunc said: ... a guilt handle shovel itching to dig a basement 😂 Why the guilt..? What (or who..? ) are you going to bury in the basement..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 15, 2022 by Jus Lukin 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowf Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I gig very, very infrequently, the last one i did was a while ago for a mate’s 40th. He put together a 14 piece samba band and hired a decent venue in Southampton. I got my Ampeg SVT serviced, hooked up the 8 x 10 cab and used my ‘75 P bass with flat wounds. Sounded absolutely bloody gorgeous, even the sound guy was smiling in the sound check and the brass players were enjoying it too. I kept expecting someone to tell me to turn it down but it never happened. Went to bed on a high that night after a mate of mine, whose opinion I value, said afterwards the bass sounded superb. Woke up the next morning in a cold sweat thinking, “he never actually complimented my playing though…” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mowf said: I gig very, very infrequently, the last one i did was a while ago for a mate’s 40th. He put together a 14 piece samba band and hired a decent venue in Southampton. I got my Ampeg SVT serviced, hooked up the 8 x 10 cab and used my ‘75 P bass with flat wounds. Sounded absolutely bloody gorgeous, even the sound guy was smiling in the sound check and the brass players were enjoying it too. I kept expecting someone to tell me to turn it down but it never happened. Went to bed on a high that night after a mate of mine, whose opinion I value, said afterwards the bass sounded superb. Woke up the next morning in a cold sweat thinking, “he never actually complimented my playing though…” Yes....I get that compliment from other bass players quite a lot too 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) A friend of mine sometimes does sound for big arena gigs etc. He used to be a session bass player. He’s always saying that bass is tricky to do well, rooms can make or break it, and the audience makes a big difference Edited July 18, 2021 by zbd1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I have had this situation happen so many times. As I am the singer I had to rely on my mate, the guitarist, to go out front and let me know what it sounded like. Many times I had a decent enough break from singing to jump out quickly and have a listen. As long as the guitar was blasting out nice and clear he was happy. Sod the overall sound. He once told me bass should be felt rather than heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 As a result of all this I'm not bothering to hump my gorgeous Ampeg Barefaced rig for this band any more. If they want the bass to sound like a wasp in a tupperware I'll just put it through the PA and get a Backbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 On 19/07/2021 at 08:23, ubit said: He once told me bass should be felt rather than heard. So you clubbed him round the head with one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Maude said: So you clubbed him round the head with one. Believe me, he came close many times. When we grew to a four then five piece band the others used to call us the married couple because of the arguments. He was still my mate though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I have watched my mate, when told to turn his guitar down, go up to the amp, grip the knob and do absolutely nothing. I've said you didn't even move that! To which he would just smile. It worked for the whole band when we were playing in some bars and they would say turn down. We would give them a thumbs up and play a quieter song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldon Tyrell Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 17/07/2021 at 17:01, stewblack said: So am I broken? Why can't I be trusted to know what a good bass sound is? It seems I lack all objectivity when it comes to my own sound. I apologize already in advance but I just could not resist, "cause I'm broken when I'm open" 😎 Ok, I am out of here 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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