ped Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, prowla said: Right... I've asked this multiple times, but it looks like it's falling on deaf ears. The default font is grey, which makes it hard to read the text. A black font is much easier to read against the white background. There seems to be work being put into trying out different themes, but no imperative to fix the default one. The purpose of the site for me is to come and communicate with other members, to read what they say and respond, to gain some insight & advice and enjoyment, and to occasionally acquire items via the classifieds. All of those rely on the adequate presentation of the text in the respective posts; the site is the vehicle by which that information is presented. For me the site is visually hard work and uncomfortable to use and I really can't get past that. I've tried, but all I've done since the update is have an occasional look, respond to a message from another member, and check this thread for progress. I've looked at the dark theme, but that would be inconsistent as I typically have several windows open and all of the others have a light background. I've embedded picture(s) of other sites which demonstrate the difference and I've included links to web design style guides/rules to reinforce the fundamental principles. I've tried posting a light-hearted meme to make the point. I've tried changing my PC and browser settings, but nothing appears to fix it (and anyway, I don't want to disrupt the other sites I use). Now, I appreciate the amount of work which goes into running and maintaining the site (I really do!) and I know I may be just one user here, so I am under no illusions on that front. But this thread asked for bugs and to me this design/style issue is more basic and fundamental than some of the programming/logic items and is impacting the usability of the site for me. I like this site and it's one of several which I have open automatically when I login to my PC to reflect my chosen areas of interest, but right now I've removed it from that list. So please, if you're not going to fix it then let me know and I'll stop checking back, only to be frustrated again, and I'll step away and leave you alone. I've actually spent the last hour making you a special theme all of your own, and made the text on the default light theme a bit darker. Sorry I haven't got round to it immediately, I stupidly put my family and job before your progressively less polite request. You're welcome! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 29/07/2021 at 09:35, wateroftyne said: Pagination is still a little murky (sorry if this is already in-hand). That should look a little clearer now; trouble is for some daft reason it's tied to other random text colours which need to be on the darker side. It might be possible to adjust them separately if I dive in a bit deeper by bypassing the admin CP and going to the code, but I'm likely to break it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpondonBassed Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, prowla said: Right Gosh. If you're like this now, what would you be like as a supporting member? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, ped said: I've actually spent the last hour making you a special theme all of your own, and made the text on the default light theme a bit darker. Sorry I haven't got round to it immediately, I stupidly put my family and job before your progressively less polite request. You're welcome! Apologies if my frustration came across as impolite... ...I'm now stepping away from the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Added a slight background glow on the notifications (dark theme). This colour is tied to the background blur which you see when composing a PM on desktop. I thought orange looked nice as a glow on the notifications but it was a bit much behind the PM screen, so think this grey works OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, prowla said: Right... I've asked this multiple times, but it looks like it's falling on deaf ears. The default font is grey, which makes it hard to read the text. A black font is much easier to read against the white background. There seems to be work being put into trying out different themes, but no imperative to fix the default one. The purpose of the site for me is to come and communicate with other members, to read what they say and respond, to gain some insight & advice and enjoyment, and to occasionally acquire items via the classifieds. All of those rely on the adequate presentation of the text in the respective posts; the site is the vehicle by which that information is presented. For me the site is visually hard work and uncomfortable to use and I really can't get past that. I've tried, but all I've done since the update is have an occasional look, respond to a message from another member, and check this thread for progress. I've looked at the dark theme, but that would be inconsistent as I typically have several windows open and all of the others have a light background. I've embedded picture(s) of other sites which demonstrate the difference and I've included links to web design style guides/rules to reinforce the fundamental principles. I've tried posting a light-hearted meme to make the point. I've tried changing my PC and browser settings, but nothing appears to fix it (and anyway, I don't want to disrupt the other sites I use). Now, I appreciate the amount of work which goes into running and maintaining the site (I really do!) and I know I may be just one user here, so I am under no illusions on that front. But this thread asked for bugs and to me this design/style issue is more basic and fundamental than some of the programming/logic items and is impacting the usability of the site for me. I like this site and it's one of several which I have open automatically when I login to my PC to reflect my chosen areas of interest, but right now I've removed it from that list. So please, if you're not going to fix it then let me know and I'll stop checking back, only to be frustrated again, and I'll step away and leave you alone. Has anyone else experienced the delicious irony of reading this post in the dark theme? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Blank Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: Has anyone else experienced the delicious irony of squinting at this post in the dark theme? FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, prowla said: Right... I've asked this multiple times, but it looks like it's falling on deaf ears. The default font is grey, which makes it hard to read the text. A black font is much easier to read against the white background. There seems to be work being put into trying out different themes, but no imperative to fix the default one. The purpose of the site for me is to come and communicate with other members, to read what they say and respond, to gain some insight & advice and enjoyment, and to occasionally acquire items via the classifieds. All of those rely on the adequate presentation of the text in the respective posts; the site is the vehicle by which that information is presented. For me the site is visually hard work and uncomfortable to use and I really can't get past that. I've tried, but all I've done since the update is have an occasional look, respond to a message from another member, and check this thread for progress. I've looked at the dark theme, but that would be inconsistent as I typically have several windows open and all of the others have a light background. I've embedded picture(s) of other sites which demonstrate the difference and I've included links to web design style guides/rules to reinforce the fundamental principles. I've tried posting a light-hearted meme to make the point. I've tried changing my PC and browser settings, but nothing appears to fix it (and anyway, I don't want to disrupt the other sites I use). Now, I appreciate the amount of work which goes into running and maintaining the site (I really do!) and I know I may be just one user here, so I am under no illusions on that front. But this thread asked for bugs and to me this design/style issue is more basic and fundamental than some of the programming/logic items and is impacting the usability of the site for me. I like this site and it's one of several which I have open automatically when I login to my PC to reflect my chosen areas of interest, but right now I've removed it from that list. So please, if you're not going to fix it then let me know and I'll stop checking back, only to be frustrated again, and I'll step away and leave you alone. Whoooah.. wind your neck in, bonny lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, ped said: That should look a little clearer now; trouble is for some daft reason it's tied to other random text colours which need to be on the darker side. It might be possible to adjust them separately if I dive in a bit deeper by bypassing the admin CP and going to the code, but I'm likely to break it. Nice one - thanks, Ped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) Just wanted to say that the greys for navigating from one page to another are now nice and readable against both black and white backgrounds 👍 Also I think the site logo is now bigger and brighter than it was a couple of days ago? Assuming that it's not that I'm going nuts, that's a nice little improvement too Edited August 1, 2021 by Ricky Rioli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Thanks, yes the logo is bigger and the correct shade of orange, thanks to @wateroftyne 👍🏼 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowla Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 30/07/2021 at 14:41, wateroftyne said: Whoooah.. wind your neck in, bonny lad. I was trying to show that I’ve tried various options and got nowhere, so was looking to see if it was being looked at. I accept it may have come across a bit more (ahem) forceful than it should’ve done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Previously when entering a thread, it would take me to last one I'd read, whereas sometimes it is now taking me to the first post in the thread. I'm selecting 'unread content'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, zbd1960 said: Previously when entering a thread, it would take me to last one I'd read, whereas sometimes it is now taking me to the first post in the thread. I'm selecting 'unread content'. Go to your account settings - content view behaviour and select the top option - save. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbd1960 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, ezbass said: Go to your account settings - content view behaviour and select the top option - save. Thank you. That resolved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, zbd1960 said: Previously when entering a thread, it would take me to last one I'd read, whereas sometimes it is now taking me to the first post in the thread. I'm selecting 'unread content'. By default the little blob to the left of the thread title will take you to 'first unread' and clicking the title itself takes you to the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velarian Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I’ve seen this quite a few times when doing searches using the additional search options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Velarian said: I’ve seen this quite a few times when doing searches using the additional search options. Yes, I always get that, it wasn't an update thing, its just the way the site works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Velarian said: I’ve seen this quite a few times when doing searches using the additional search options. Anti-flood protection. Mostly annoying when you made a typo and want to correct it quickly or want to try a new string, but bearable generally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Machines said: ... you made a typo ... What is this 'typo' of which you squeek..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Machines said: Anti-flood protection. Mostly annoying when you made a typo and want to correct it quickly or want to try a new string, but bearable generally Yep. I get it every single time if I do a search and then click the 'all of the terms' button, or if I refine the search at all. But I do type quite quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Velarian said: I’ve seen this quite a few times when doing searches using the additional search options. This happens every time I use the search. It offers you options, then tells you to wait before resubmitting. It's to stop spam but it's a right PITA turning a straightforward search into a minute or two of frustration if you need to do several refinements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 If you click the drop down lists too quick it will make you wait, I do it slowly and it works fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: If you click the drop down lists too quick it will make you wait, I do it slowly and it works fine Exactly... because it has a longer anti-spam delay than most sites, I get caught out every time. It would help if it defaulted to 'and' rather than 'or' which gives too many results. This is also usual default search behaviour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said: It would help if it defaulted to 'and' rather than 'or' which gives too many results. This is also usual default search behaviour. I'm not sure I can adjust the flood control, it may be at the server end, but you're right about the 'and/or' is I've just changed the default behaviour 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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