Chienmortbb Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 It seems to me that the main areas of gigging these days is with worship bands. Do all the musicians "believe"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Considering a significant number of the clergy don't believe, I doubt it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobothy Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) ... who knows! Edited July 27, 2021 by jimbobothy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) You can join my death metal band. We play at the church of unholy Satan every full moon. Edited July 27, 2021 by Newfoundfreedom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Not a been churchgoer since I was old enough to not have to sit through school assemblies, but if you were offering regular paid gigs with no drunk audience and a guaranteed 1PM loadout then you can call me the Pope... Atheist in miraculous overnight conversion; Halleluiah, Halleluiah, it's a miracle. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I assume it's important if you play in a worship band but generally their are plenty of scenes that don't require any kind of faith. I've never asked my band mates about their beliefs as it's not relevant to what we do. Small self sufficient bands seem to be getting bookings in local pubs at the moment. I have 11 dates in the diary for 2021 but won't be out live for the first time until Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I was asked a while back if I wanted to play in a pentecostal worship band. I'm not religious, though I do like a lot of classic gospel stuff. It wasn't quite said explicitly, but it was made known that the general vibe was that you had to have some kind of commitment to faith if you wanted to stick it out, so I passed. I felt it might be a bit hypocritical as well. That said, I've played plenty of weddings where I didn't like the bride or groom... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Wouldn't it be some form of discrimination if they were to turn you down just because your personal beliefs were different to theirs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, Newfoundfreedom said: You can join my death metal band. We play at the church of unholy Satan every full moon. Sounds great! I'll get my corpse paint out the car. 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge Hands Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I grew up playing drums in a church and played there until I left home and went to university at 18. I have since occasionally played bass in the odd church over the years. I do not feel I am personally religious. My mother was, which is why I started out at church. In my experience, there are some lovely people you will meet at church, and it is a great way to meet people and be part of your community. Those people will be happy you chose to attend their church and will accept you at your own pace/level of commitment to God etc etc. However, also in my experience, there will be a minority who take it all way too seriously and will push you to find out your own beliefs and try and convert you if they think you don't believe enough. There will also those that act as though they are more holy than anyone else and will relish the opportunity to shun or guilt someone like you who is not as anointed as they are. If you can deal with those people, then you can still have a great time, respecting the beliefs of others and letting them respect your position. I have struggled to deal with self-righteous a***holes over the years, which is why I don't tend to last too long in church settings. As others have said, I think that what I do or don't believe is my own private matter and no one else's business unless I decide I wan't to talk about it. (P.S. - I am speaking of my experience in mainly C of E (but have also been involved in Catholic, Methodist. Baptist and Evangelist churches). P.P.S. - Mods - if this is too religious, please feel free to delete.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Chienmortbb said: It seems to me that the main areas of gigging these days is with worship bands. Do all the musicians "believe"? Do you mean musicians that play in worship bands? I suspect not. However, I wouldn't have thought the main areas of gigging was worship bands in the UK. Most places in the UK church attendances are going down so it doesn't seem like something to do just for a career move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, KevB said: Wouldn't it be some form of discrimination if they were to turn you down just because your personal beliefs were different to theirs? No. Schedule 23 to the Equality Act 2010 provides that a religious organisation does not contravene the Act if it restricts participation in the activities of the organisation to members of that organisation. As such, it would be legitimate for a church to limit members of the band to its own congregation or people of like-minded faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Newfoundfreedom said: You can join my death metal band. We play at the church of unholy Satan every full moon. I think you touch on a relevant point here. Is Black Metal technically worship music? Edited July 27, 2021 by Bassassin No 'I' dea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, KevB said: Wouldn't it be some form of discrimination if they were to turn you down just because your personal beliefs were different to theirs? No, churches and religious schools have always been allowed to discriminate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borntohang Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bassassin said: I think you touch on a relevant point here. Is Black Metal technically worship music? I think Worship Music would specifically need to be music involved in the act of organised worship rather than just featuring religious content (so Hillsong are Worship but POD are just religious). I find very few of the Satanists I know are into the organised religion vibe, but it could be considered the equivalent of Christian Rock perhaps? Edited July 27, 2021 by borntohang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Will being a long term believer in The Church Of Fleabagness get me gigs ? I have plenty of faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddo Soqable Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 If you want to do the gig for a gig's sake, just pretend..( yeah, yeah, course I'm a Christine ) you know, lie, like all the esteemed politicians do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, KevB said: Wouldn't it be some form of discrimination if they were to turn you down just because your personal beliefs were different to theirs? The test will be whether you burst in to flames when you play the first note. In all seriousness the post that @Huge Handswrote hits the nail on the head for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said: You can join my death metal band. We play at the church of unholy Satan every full moon. Amen brother. I feel the unholy power of Satan. I can't lie. I believe in nothing but Satan has better music than Jesus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddo Soqable Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Who's this Stan bloke anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Waddo Soqable said: Who's this Stan bloke anyway ? Some bloke from Hull 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, Waddo Soqable said: If you want to do the gig for a gig's sake, just pretend..( yeah, yeah, course I'm a Christine ) you know, lie, like all the esteemed politicians do I am not sure why you would want to do it if you weren't religious though. I am assuming it doesn't pay much and I can't imagine there is much flexibility in songs unless I guess you are an original band, do they have those? Sort of like a cover band, but with a thinner choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said: You can join my death metal band. We play at the church of unholy Satan every full moon. Howl can I join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Cat Burrito said: I assume it's important if you play in a worship band but generally their are plenty of scenes that don't require any kind of faith. I've never asked my band mates about their beliefs as it's not relevant to what we do. Small self sufficient bands seem to be getting bookings in local pubs at the moment. I have 11 dates in the diary for 2021 but won't be out live for the first time until Thursday. Whoopee. Two Gigs without a conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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