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Beautiful character to the wood with they ‘chevron’ grain down the middle. Oil and polish gets my vote. Any guard wood go with that: relic metal, tortoise shell, white or black...or maybe no guard at all. 

I have no idea as a novice bassist but as someone who has experience working with wood I would “let the grain take the strain” and stay natural. 

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3 hours ago, PaulThePlug said:

So... whats happening with this then?.. It's been a fortnight...

 

Haha! I fled Bangkok and went to Koh Chang for a week to escape the smoggy lockdown and work from the beach. I'm back on the bass and about to apply the first coat of tru-oil. Pics soon. I did have a parcel from Japan waiting for me when I returned...

 

Gotoh vintage style tuners, and they weigh an absolute ton. I love it.

 

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1 minute ago, Velarian said:

I’m also in the process of installing the tuners on my build. A similar story to you, lost a couple of screws and stripped the cross heads on a few more. Had to order a couple more packets of the blighters! 😟

 

Glad it's not just me! I find intricate tasks like this incredibly difficult - I'm as good as blind when working with things close up. Just have to order more screws and all is well though 🙂

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3 hours ago, Velarian said:

stripped the cross heads

 

It is worth checking that the screw driver you use is in good condition and is the correct fit.  It makes a huge difference even with poorly formed screw heads.  A poorly fitting screw driver will ruin a screw head faster than most other things.

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2 hours ago, SpondonBassed said:

 

It is worth checking that the screw driver you use is in good condition and is the correct fit.  It makes a huge difference even with poorly formed screw heads.  A poorly fitting screw driver will ruin a screw head faster than most other things.

This is the key thing and certainly the cause of my troubles. I’ve got to say it’s never clear to me if a screwdriver is a Phillips or Posidrive and then there’s the screws, I’m guessing they’re Phillips heads and they’re so damn small. 

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Drill pilot holes...

Use a damp bar of soap rubbed on the threads as lube... or an Ikea Tea Light Candle!

Good fitting screwdriver (Jap/Phillips/Pozi are all cross head but different...)

 

A little tip... use a bit of thin plastic bag, like sandwich bag, or cling film, between screwdriver and screw, stops rounding, fills the gap and protects the finish particularly on black fasteners.

 

I do this 'bag trick' over nut heads before a socket and ratchet... or to pack and improve fit on allen head bolts and the allen key.

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5 hours ago, PaulThePlug said:

Drill pilot holes...

Use a damp bar of soap rubbed on the threads as lube... or an Ikea Tea Light Candle!

Good fitting screwdriver (Jap/Phillips/Pozi are all cross head but different...)

 

A little tip... use a bit of thin plastic bag, like sandwich bag, or cling film, between screwdriver and screw, stops rounding, fills the gap and protects the finish particularly on black fasteners.

 

I do this 'bag trick' over nut heads before a socket and ratchet... or to pack and improve fit on allen head bolts and the allen key.

 

Great tips! I drilled pilot holes but I think they weren't deep enough on the ones I rounded out. That's what I get for being too cautious I guess. 

 

More updates soon...

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Hi everyone!

 

Apologies for the slow updates. Work became crazy for a couple of weeks as we prepare for reopening as the end of lockdown is in sight, so I haven't had the time to dedicate to this project until now. 

 

I've ordered a custom made black anodized from a local luthier. 

 

I wanted to get a few coats of oil done before the next update, and I am almost ready to start applying the finish, but I need some advice before I do. The wood has a couple of spots, only on the sides of the body, that are discoloured. This is the kind of thing that would become significantly more obvious once oil is applied. After a considerable amount of sanding, and an attempt at cleaning, I can't seem to get rid of them. 

 

I'm not too bothered if I can't remove them, as I will embrace the finished bass regardless of imperfections. After all, it's been around a fair bit! However, I'm putting this out there to see if anyone here has encountered such a thing.

 

Here is the worst affected area - otherwise the wood is beautiful. The bass is hanging out to dry after cleaning!

 

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On 22/08/2021 at 22:14, TheGreek said:

I'm not normally a fan of (faux) relicing but IMO it was the only way to go with this. Too much "character" to try to renovate.

 

Natural finish is the way to go - I linked to a vintage finish (vinegar & wire wool) in another thread - could be the way to go.

 

Found it: 

 

 

This idea really stuck in my head. I've tested a spot inside the neck pocket. 

 

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Obvously lifted the grain in the neck pocket a fair bit... Is that still wetish or after an hour so of drying? Should be a lot less on the sanded body. wire wool n vinegar? If ya like it go for it! certainly carries the grain and gives a unique vintage-esq look, and will go well with the mojo neck and worn ally plate.

 

I wouldnt worry about those spots too much, i got a lot of darker spots when using danish oil particularly on any end grain. so you may well end up with patches where you are not expecting them.

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17 hours ago, PaulThePlug said:

Obvously lifted the grain in the neck pocket a fair bit... Is that still wetish or after an hour so of drying? Should be a lot less on the sanded body. wire wool n vinegar? If ya like it go for it! certainly carries the grain and gives a unique vintage-esq look, and will go well with the mojo neck and worn ally plate.

 

It was a little wet still - here's experiment number 2. I did this between the neck and pickup, an area that'd be covered up. Slightly sanded, then again but dampened (I'm trying to imagine what it'll look like with tru-oil). 

 

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Will that effect not look a bit heavy when applied to the whole body? It feels to me a bit over the top just to mask a couple of dark spots on the edge of the body when the rest of the grain would look great naturally enhanced?

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1 hour ago, Velarian said:

Will that effect not look a bit heavy when applied to the whole body? It feels to me a bit over the top just to mask a couple of dark spots on the edge of the body when the rest of the grain would look great naturally enhanced?


I think you're right. 

 

I think I will do this kind of stain on a future project, but this isn't the right bass for it.

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Oiling has begun. There have been some very informative threads on BC about how best to do this - I must thank Honza992 for an incredibly detailed account of his telecaster build here: 

 

 

I am in the grain-fill stage, 3 coats of tru-oil applied. I am going to take it slow, and just keep going until it shines. It won't be perfect, it's an old bit of wood, but I am very happy with how it's going so far. I have a feeling the body will match the neck nicely in terms of colour and general 'vibe'. It's got some of the maddest grain I've ever seen on a body.

 

 

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OK, proper update!

 

I'm still working through tru-oil coats (I have been conservatively applying 1 per day for the past 10 days and it still has a little way to go) but here's an idea of how she'll look. Pickguard arrived today and I must say I'm very happy with how it's coming along.

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1 minute ago, PaulThePlug said:

Really Nice... Was that the old sctatchplate re-done, or did you keep that for a worn look?

This is a new one I had made by a local luthier, I'll keep the old one for something. But I am digging this look for now!

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