Crawford13 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Has anyone used an XR18 or the like to run their bands IEM mixes, then run the 2 main XLR outs to the main PA? Does this work? Or is there any other way to do this? Basically I am thinking running 2 kempers, a Helix, Roland SPD, vocal mics and drum mics through the mixer, then send the aux outs to each IEM, and the main outs to the rehearsal studio / venue PA? Any help or input would be appreciated. Edited August 18, 2021 by Crawford13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford13 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 I have just seen that I would be better splitting all the signals before the go into the iem mixer. Which makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky999 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I run an XR18 in the way you’re thinking of and use 4 of the aux outs to run our IEMS with the main outs to our PA. We only use the cheap Gear4music systems for the guitarists and bass and a hard wired Behringer headphone amp for the drummer. It works well for us and the ability to have individual mixes is a real plus. At some point, we will upgrade to some better IEMS like Shure or Sennheiser but you’re talking £££ to kit a band out and the gear4music/takstar is ok for what we need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Yep, I use ours to run 2 IEM feeds and a trad monitor from the auxes. Dead easy and works exactly as you suggest. As Silky suggests each aux can have a different mix, though we haven’t got there yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Check whether the XR18 will allow you to link aux's to create a stereo mix, I have a UI24 as an enclosed IEM set up, we tried running as mono in ear mixes but the clarity was poor, switching to stereo mixes allowed us to place all the different instruments in different places in the stereo spectrum and really improved the sound, of course the trouble is that for each IEM out mix you are using 2 aux sends so even the UI24 only really allows for 4 stereo IEM mixes unless you start routing to use the 2 headphone outs as a 5th stereo aux send! Either way, it turned out the drummer was deaf in one ear and the rest of the band were too tight to invest in decent IEM set ups so the whole project was an expensive waste of money! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 hours ago, Crawford13 said: I have just seen that I would be better splitting all the signals before the go into the iem mixer. Which makes sense. Guess you already seen... But yeah, section 5 should get you going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zranyard Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yeah one band I tour a lot with uses one, I think he has it in a rack with a splitter for when there's already foh crew who want to bypass the xr18. But we've used it for foh ourselves at gigs as well as just monitoring and it is great. The app, which I think is either free or about a quid is great ( on android) I think we got a router too to upgrade the wifi signal but still all in, so affordable for what it can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonaRik Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Roger2611 said: Check whether the XR18 will allow you to link aux's to create a stereo mix, I have a UI24 as an enclosed IEM set up, we tried running as mono in ear mixes but the clarity was poor, switching to stereo mixes allowed us to place all the different instruments in different places in the stereo spectrum and really improved the sound, of course the trouble is that for each IEM out mix you are using 2 aux sends so even the UI24 only really allows for 4 stereo IEM mixes unless you start routing to use the 2 headphone outs as a 5th stereo aux send! Either way, it turned out the drummer was deaf in one ear and the rest of the band were too tight to invest in decent IEM set ups so the whole project was an expensive waste of money! Upgrading to a Midas M32C or Behringer XR32 Rack will expand your available outputs to 16 aux channels - 8 stereo pairs - but you'll need to invest in an SD8/SD16 to add additional physical XLR outputs and there is no built-in router...not a bad thing actually! The plus point of these is that with a single cable you've added 8 or 16 physical inputs and 8 physical outputs patchable from the X32 routing page. We use an X32 Rack in conjunction with an SD16 upstage for backline and kit mics and the drummers monitor, and an SD8 downstage for vocal mics, downstage monitors and FOH L/R outputs Edited August 19, 2021 by DaytonaRik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I use an X18 for all our IEMs, although only 3 of us use them, and all mono so no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yes, it's a very capable little mixer. My only issue would be not enough outputs to run stereo IEM mixes for each band member. The X32 rack can give you a whole lot more ins and outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Ultranet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrBone Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 17/08/2021 at 23:18, Silky999 said: I run an XR18 in the way you’re thinking of and use 4 of the aux outs to run our IEMS with the main outs to our PA. We only use the cheap Gear4music systems for the guitarists and bass and a hard wired Behringer headphone amp for the drummer. It works well for us and the ability to have individual mixes is a real plus. At some point, we will upgrade to some better IEMS like Shure or Sennheiser but you’re talking £££ to kit a band out and the gear4music/takstar is ok for what we need Appreciate this is old topic but about to invest in a xr18 and have the gear4music iems too. Do you need a headphone amp between the aux output on the xr18 and the g4m iem transmitter, or just direct connect it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 No you don't. Direct connect. Although I'd ditch the g4m unit and use a wired connection so you can hear just how much better a direct connection using a Behringer P2 is compared to those wireless units. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb625 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: No you don't. Direct connect. Although I'd ditch the g4m unit and use a wired connection so you can hear just how much better a direct connection using a Behringer P2 is compared to those wireless units. I'd second that. The g4m one isn't very good (in my opinion/experience) and the P1/2 will give you much better results for less cost. If you don't want to have 2 cables trailing from the guitar and monitor pack, you can get a combined cable (designacable, or Ernie Ball make them) which cleans things up a bit - you can put the pack on your pedalboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 We’re using the xr18 as our main mixer for foh and cable the aux outputs to P2’s for iem’s. A bit messy but no hassles in setting up. I’ve freed up an aux by using the ultranet and personal monitor mixing unit which is an excellent bit of kit as it’s so easy to get the mix right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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