lownote Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Currently got an Ashdown MAG 300 evo ii head going into an 8 ohm Ashdown RM 210 cab. Playing in a rock band at smaller pub gigs, and I'm having turn both gain and volume right up, adding the bass and top end boost and a bit of compression to be heard. Now, should I get a more powerful head (eg 600) so I get more headroom with one cab I've got. Or should I get a second cab to pull a tad more power out of the head I have and double the number of oomph makers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 600w wouldn't be double the volume of 300w... not by a long chalk. You'd get 'ooomph' by adding a 2nd cab and were it me I'd be getting a 2nd identical cab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Adding the same cab again will get full power from the MAG 300, plus it will double the “size” of the sound, which for some reason really makes it feel like it’s much louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) At small pub gigs, I`m surprised that the MAG and 1 cab isn`t enough. I used an old MAG 300 and a ABM mini 2 x 10 in these type of gigs and often had to turn down. Not doubting you by the way, everyone`s needs are different. I would go for the extra cab. Edited August 22, 2021 by jezzaboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezzaboy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jezzaboy said: Edited August 22, 2021 by jezzaboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 15, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassmanPaul Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just as a comment: to get twice as loud you would need to increase power by ten times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, lownote said: Now, should I get a more powerful head (eg 600) so I get more headroom with one cab I've got. Chances are you've reached what your cab is capable of putting out with your current amp. Quote should I get a second cab to pull a tad more power out of the head I have and double the number of oomph makers? Power doesn't matter. What does matter is driver displacement and speaker sensitivity. The 6dB increase in voltage sensitivity from adding a second identical cab and the 6dB increase in maximum displacement limited output are the equivalent of quadrupling power if your 210 could handle it, the possibility of which is slim to none, and Slim just left town. Edited August 22, 2021 by Bill Fitzmaurice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2nd cab everyday except Sunday, when you get the band to quiet down. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Downunderwonder said: 2nd cab everyday except Sunday, when you get the band to quiet down. Not in a Southern Baptist church service. The scene with James Brown as the pastor in 'The Blues Brothers' was pretty accurate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZpH9Khn0E0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Second cab, whilst avoiding the bass boost as it gobbles up power... mids are your friend for being heard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Keep what you've got and get the rest of the band to turn down. If the Mag300 and 2x10 are struggling at "small" gigs, the rest of the band is way too loud. I've got the Behringer Mag300 clone, and running out through my 2x10 It makes my ears bleed at anything above half volume. Edited August 23, 2021 by Newfoundfreedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lownote Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 Thanks to a bit of excellent serendipitous salesmanship on the part of Mr Merton I will soon be the possessor of a second RM 210T cab, unleashing thunderbolts of Ashy sound on my fandom. Not because Uncle Bulgaria's wrong, but because in one weekend I just earned enough gig fees to be able to afford it. And second bass cabilules are more important than food. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundfreedom Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, lownote said: Thanks to a bit of excellent serendipitous salesmanship on the part of Mr Merton I will soon be the possessor of a second RM 210T cab, unleashing thunderbolts of Ashy sound on my fandom. Not because Uncle Bulgaria's wrong, but because in one weekend I just earned enough gig fees to be able to afford it. And second bass cabilules are more important than food. Yes. Buying more gear will always trump being sensible. Congratulations sir. You truly are a bass player. 😅 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Has anyone told you yet, get another 210. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 As tempting as it will be to avoid ''muffin top'' by stacking low you should stack end on end to best share your tone with your fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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