Maude Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: Different tone woods for bass - low mids - high mids *nods* Ah, why didn't I realise? That's exactly what it is! The darker wood is obviously more dense and used on that side to accentuate the higher frequencies of the treble strings. These Kays really were ahead of their time. 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc S Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Looks like you're doing a good job with the refin @Maude I'm really enjoying this thread. And I still wish the young me had bought one of these when I first saw them around. It was probably the "Kay" badge that put me off..... or I needed the cash for Friday & Saturday night out! Looking forward to seeing how the staining goes. But don't make too good a job of it, or I'll have 80's Kay GAS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The one that was for sale on evilbay has been relisted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Marc S said: Looking forward to seeing how the staining goes. But don't make too good a job of it, or I'll have 80's Kay GAS Ha ha, we can't have more Kay enduced envy. @Pea Turghis bad with my other old Kay. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 09:10, Marc S said: Looking forward to seeing how the staining goes. But don't make too good a job of it, or I'll have 80's Kay GAS Ah, erm yeah, no need to worry. Things haven't gone well! 🙈 Firstly the red ink is brown. I didn't want scarlet so went for 'Indian Red' as it was a deeper dark red. On paper it might be but on this wood it's gone brown. Then as I was wiping coats on it started to drag the colour out from the previous coat, probably not dry enough but I was trying to build up costs to see if it would go a deeper red. Less haste more speed as they say. 🙄 I'm just letting it dry a bit and then I'm going to try a make or break plan. Stay tuned for the results folks. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 OK crisis averted, I think. The ink that went all patchy looking says non water fast on the bottle, so a good rub with a wet sponge should even it out, right? What's the worst that can happen? 😄 It worked!! As well as evening it out it took some of the colour off again. I had to keep rinsing the ink out of the sponge and really rubbing quite hard to kind of make an ink slurry, then just wiped it off. I've left the heavier, dark ink in the curve of the top horns, around the bottom and right beside the centre stripes and it's given it a cool aged look. It's still slightly uneven but I think that's more the wood than the ink as when I tried it again it dried the same. I've managed to turn boring pine into boring mahogany. The only downside is that the water has lifted the grain and made the surface a bit rough for lacquring, but a couple of extra coats and good wet flat will sort that. I could try lightly sanding the wood to reveal the grain more but the grain is pretty dull and I don't want to risk making it more patchy and having to start again. The colour will 'pop' more (as the cool kids (probably don't) say) once lacquered. Here ya go! The control cavity cleaned out nicely, until I got ink all over it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Oh yeah, matching headstock or leave as is? It will yellow more once lacquered. What do we think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Maude said: Oh yeah, matching headstock or leave as is? It will yellow more once lacquered. What do we think? I’d leave it , it kinda follows the middle if you know what I mean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 That looks great! It may not be the colour you intended but that really works. As far as the headstock's concerned, I'm leaning towards colouring it - the stained wings give the bass an Aria-esque look, & the SBs had a head veneer matched to the wings. It would also even out the look of the darker section, which stands out more on the headstock than on the body. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: matching headstock or leave as is I say leave it, bassassin says stain it, so just do half 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: I say leave it, bassassin says stain it, so just do half 😁 That's the problem - it looks like he already has! Needs a poll. Edited September 11, 2021 by Bassassin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bassassin said: That's the problem - it looks like he already has! True ☝️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) I read the text before looking at the photo and that is not boring, that looks ace, good work, Sir! If it were me, I’d colour the headstock, as it would tie the head to the body very nicely as the fretboard makes it look disassociated from the body (plus, you have the reverse for the complete head to tail look). Edited September 11, 2021 by ezbass 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 I'll mull it over this evening. I've done my usual of placing it opposite the sofa so I keep glancing at it and the ideas can stew for a bit. The brass TRC looks good against the 'fauxhogany' so maybe stained. So far, in favour of staining we have, 2 For 1 Against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Maude said: I'll mull it over this evening. I've done my usual of placing it opposite the sofa so I keep glancing at it and the ideas can stew for a bit. The brass TRC looks good against the 'fauxhogany' so maybe stained. So far, in favour of staining we have, 2 For 1 Against My opinion in this is beyond worthless but I can't resist voting Against, just to tie the results so far 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reggaebass said: I say leave it, bassassin says stain it, so just do half 😁 20 minutes ago, Maude said: So far, in favour of staining we have, 2 For 1 Against Now it should be 2/3 stained 😉 EDIT: or at least it should’ve been. Edited September 11, 2021 by ezbass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Ricky Rioli said: My opinion in this is beyond worthless but I can't resist voting Against, just to tie the results so far 😬 Gah! You’ve ruined my post 😢😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Is anyone any good with photoshop? Could do a stained head mock up, then we'd know. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 🤣🤣🤣 Edited September 11, 2021 by Maude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) LOL! Leave it... Thru Neck, Matches the body. As mentioned it should melow and balance in colour a bit with laquer... Edited September 11, 2021 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, PaulThePlug said: LOL! Leave it... Thru Neck, Matches the body. As mentioned it should melow and balance in colour a bit with laquer... Aww, I'd almost decided on staining it. 😄 I just don't know. I'll wipe some white spirit on it tomorrow, it'll show the colour once lacquered but won't lift the grain like water. A yellower tint will blend better. I do like the idea of a stained headstock as well though, I've been looking at Arias. Here's the TRC against the stained colour. And this a better picture of the darkened edges I mentioned earlier which were a happy by product of my balls up. It looks like a conker! It's not patchy now it's thoroughly dried. I really like it now and it'll only get better once lacquered. Happy days 🙂. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) If you can be arsed... I'd stain the side edges... l left, top, right... and maybe darker at the corners and flat top... to get a bit of head/body colour balance... while ya got the rag out! But not where it tapers to the back of the neck. Edited September 11, 2021 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 It's too difficult, or too risky I should say. Being water based ink it seeps into the wood fibres and I'm not sure I could get a crisp edge. If I did the face of the headstock I'd mask just slightly down the sides to disguise any blurred edge. If I only stained the edges I'd have double the masked lines, so double the risk of seepage and I'd have to mask down the side for the reason above, leaving only a very narrow stained edge. I think it's got to be all of the face or nothing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Dons Dickie Davies wig. And the half time scores, So far Forfar 4 - East Fife 5 Stained headstock 2 - Natural wood 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Whens the Final Whistle? '... Come on you Naturals!..' Edited September 11, 2021 by PaulThePlug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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