Yan_Huriey Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Hi everyone, Organising band practice with our lot is like herding cats, does anybody know any good apps that the band members can share, is ideally free, and isn't a pain in the wrong-un to view/use/understand? Cheers. Quote
fretmeister Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 Just share a google calendar with the band members. 1 Quote
Stingray5 Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 +1 for Google Calendar although Doodle is also worth a look. https://doodle.com/en/ Quote
warwickhunt Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 +2 Google Calendar... be prepared to kick anyone's ar5e that doesn't put in dates they aren't available (the drummer)! 1 Quote
steve-bbb Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 Probably an app out there somewhere for herding cats 🤔 1 2 Quote
TimR Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 We just have a WhatsApp group purely for gigs and a WhatsApp group for general chat. Ask if anyone is available on certain date in the general chat group, and when a gig is booked stick the details in the gig group and go from there. Getting amatuer musicians to be organised is like, well, as we all know, herding cats. Quote
warwickhunt Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 59 minutes ago, TimR said: We just have a WhatsApp group purely for gigs and a WhatsApp group for general chat. Ask if anyone is available on certain date in the general chat group, and when a gig is booked stick the details in the gig group and go from there. Getting amatuer musicians to be organised is like, well, as we all know, herding cats. We tried that approach but when you get offered a gig on a certain date it is dead easy to look at an online calendar which 'should' have everyone's holiday dates, shift patterns etc on. Alternative was to post the date we'd been offered in the group and you could guarantee every other gig someone would be busy and you'd need to go back to the venue for alternative dates... which you offer back to the group. LOL ...or is that just my bands? 1 Quote
fretmeister Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) The single biggest problem is the same on every app. Humans. Every app works - up until the point where a band member doesn't use it properly. As soon as those japanese sex robots can be programmed to play guitar and drums I'm putting a band together. Edited September 6, 2021 by fretmeister 1 2 Quote
DiMarco Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) Whatsapp + Spotify is all we use. If people don't show up for practice, toss them out of the band. Edited September 6, 2021 by DiMarco 1 Quote
TimR Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: We tried that approach but when you get offered a gig on a certain date it is dead easy to look at an online calendar which 'should' have everyone's holiday dates, shift patterns etc on. Alternative was to post the date we'd been offered in the group and you could guarantee every other gig someone would be busy and you'd need to go back to the venue for alternative dates... which you offer back to the group. LOL ...or is that just my bands? You need to start off by compiling a list of dates where people aren't available. Calendars are a bit overkill for us as generally we are looking for Saturday night gigs. And they rely on people updating them without being prompted. If you have to prompt them, you might as well just ask in the first place if there are any additional dates since last time you asked. Edited September 6, 2021 by TimR Quote
SteveXFR Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 Is it not possible to book the same time and day every week or every fortnight? Quote
neepheid Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 Does the application of my boot to band members' backsides count? Quote
Yan_Huriey Posted September 6, 2021 Author Posted September 6, 2021 58 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: Is it not possible to book the same time and day every week or every fortnight? We all work alternating shifts, honestly its a miracle we do anything. We gell really well though so its worth persuing. Quote
Nail Soup Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, SteveXFR said: Is it not possible to book the same time and day every week or every fortnight? That can make it easier to get a rehearsal room too. It’s not just band members who can be unavailable. Quote
SteveXFR Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 39 minutes ago, Nail Soup said: That can make it easier to get a rehearsal room too. It’s not just band members who can be unavailable. Not only that, some rehearsal rooms do block booking discounts. 1 Quote
Lozz196 Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SteveXFR said: Is it not possible to book the same time and day every week or every fortnight? That’s what we did in my last band, a rolling booking only changed by us if we were unable to do it for whatever reasons. Re flakey band mates, well the last band was great but a few bands ago we had the typical musician. Send a message out asking if available for a gig on Sat 11th. Invariably a reply would be received on Tue 14th saying yeah, I’m up for that. 🤦🏻♂️ Quote
TimR Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yan_Hurei said: We all work alternating shifts, honestly its a miracle we do anything. We gell really well though so its worth persuing. If you're working shifts then you're probably all pretty rock solid at keeping diaries. As suggested before share a Google calendar. If you all have smartphones you can have multiple calendars in the same app, and get them just to show 'busy' in the shared calendar when you add to your own. You can share Google calendar with an iCal. If everyone has iPhones iCal might be the better option. You'll still need to check people are free, but if it's blocked out you can avoid it. Edited September 6, 2021 by TimR 1 Quote
uk_lefty Posted September 7, 2021 Posted September 7, 2021 (edited) We use Time Tree so that, in theory everyone puts up their holiday dates etc so if you're talking to a venue about a gig you can whip out the calendar and start pencilling in dates that we should in theory all be able to do. Everyone gets notifications of new events added, etc. As already noted, its worse than herding drunk three legged cats through water. People don't put up their holidays etc. OR they agree to gigs without considering key members of the band might be away AND IT SAYS SO IN THE CALENDAR. Or they suspect that being away for 3 days for a wedding is too long, so of course you can do the gig... Not realising travel up might before, go to wedding, stay the night, travel back next day.... People, eh? Edited September 7, 2021 by uk_lefty Quote
Killed_by_Death Posted September 7, 2021 Posted September 7, 2021 Tell those folks to get their practice at home, so that they're prepared for rehearsal. Quote
Supernaut Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 Shift workers i.e. let's practice at the weekends. 🤮 Quote
SumOne Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) Doodle is an easy way of checking when people are available- people just need to follow the link you set up and tick boxes for the dates they are available https://doodle.com/en/ And Teamup is a shared calendar once you have the dates organised https://www.teamup.com/ Edited September 8, 2021 by SumOne Quote
Paul S Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 16:08, fretmeister said: The single biggest problem is the same on every app. Humans. Every app works - up until the point where a band member doesn't use it properly. This. I've tried all the apps mentioned and this is the recurring theme. About the best was Doodle, mainly because it demands an actual active response and doesn't require people to remember/bother to fill in things on a regular basis. Of course it does mean that someone needs to take charge of it but that is OK generally. Quote
Supernaut Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 The dreaded blue tick no reply scenario... Quote
tauzero Posted March 6, 2024 Posted March 6, 2024 Bandwerkz (bandwerkz.com) is pretty broad ranging but I've never managed to get 100% of a band to use it. It also allows integration of the Bandwerkz calendar with Google calendar and iCalendar. Quote
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