NewUser Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 On 11/09/2021 at 18:02, dannybuoy said: Another option, not cheap or easy to find, but throwing it out there. The Wilson Freaker wah drops the volume right off when back at the heel. Run that with a distortion in a parallel chain and you can just step on it to do your thing. Sounds great on bass, I’m thinking of buying one again! Sorry to be so ignorant but here comes a stupid question. "Run that with a distortion in a parallel chain" Would I have to tap on distortion-then press the freaker to get my roar, then step back on distortion to turn it off and get back into clean? Or, does a parallel chain tell the freaker to only pull in the distortion when the freaker is engaged? If so how does that parrell chain set up look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 55 minutes ago, NewUser said: Can the weeping demon be set up so that I play clean, then when I press down the weeping demon both distortion and wah come in, when released I'm back in clean? If so how. Please go easy on me, I'm very new to this. The distortion wouldn't come from the Demon, so you'd have to trigger that separately if you want to play clean when not screaming. Put your drive/fuzz right next to the wah and practice your tap dancing 😆 I should point out that the Demon has both guitar and bass settings - to get the scream, leave it in guitar mode and crank the low EQ on the pedal to avoid losing your low end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: The distortion wouldn't come from the Demon, so you'd have to trigger that separately if you want to play clean when not screaming. Put your drive/fuzz right next to the wah and practice your tap dancing 😆 I should point out that the Demon has both guitar and bass settings - to get the scream, leave it in guitar mode and crank the low EQ on the pedal to avoid losing your low end. https://www.thomann.de/gb/g_lab_tbwp_true_bypass_wah_pad.htm If I put the Demon on a G lab with distortion I could avoid tap dancing right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, NewUser said: https://www.thomann.de/gb/g_lab_tbwp_true_bypass_wah_pad.htm If I put the Demon on a G lab with distortion I could avoid tap dancing right? I don't know what this is 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, NewUser said: Thanks for your information. The xerograph is interesting and expensive, would a used MXR M188 Bass Auto Q be a suitable cheaper alternative? Expression pedals are something I've been trying to research, I like the function of the Morley fx blender and I'm trying to find a cheaper alternative. Expression pedal is just a knob that you operate with your foot. You can only use it as an external controller, for pedals that are designed to be used this way. I assumed you want to control the sound of the "scream" opening up with your foot. For this you need either a wah pedal, or a filter pedal with expression input/mode. The most common "filter" pedal that will do this is an envelope filter. AKA auto-wah. The wah sound is triggered every time you play a note. The auto Q is an envelope filter but it doesn't have external expression functionality. The xerograph (non-deluxe version) is an interesting beast because its a fixed filter. You sweep the frequency either with the knob or an expression pedal. The neat thing about this unit is that you can set the resonance right on the edge of crazy feedback/self oscillation. You could get some wild scream effects going on! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, NewUser said: https://www.thomann.de/gb/g_lab_tbwp_true_bypass_wah_pad.htm If I put the Demon on a G lab with distortion I could avoid tap dancing right? Yeah that would work well! You would just need to put the distortion/fuzz in the "loop" of the G lab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I don't know of the Demon would be too big to fit on the G-Lab. Regarding the Freaker, for it to work well it would need to 100% shut off the signal at the heel end (I'm not sure if a tiny bit still comes through), and then to use something like a Boss LS-2 to split and mix 2 parallel chains, chain A being your regular bass and B having the wah+distortion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) . Edited September 16, 2021 by AJ567 Double post, sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: I don't know of the Demon would be too big to fit on the G-Lab. Good point. You could use any standard-size wah. And more or less any fuzz given that you'll be maxing it out... I'm assuming we're in "special effects" territory here, rather than seeking a solid bass tone... G-lab + cheap wah + any nasty fuzz is a neat solution to what the OP wants to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 I just watched a YouTube video on the Boss LS-2 I would need to engage the Boss LS-2 before using the expression pedal and then disengage it after use of the expression, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, NewUser said: I just watched a YouTube video on the Boss LS-2 I would need to engage the Boss LS-2 before using the expression pedal and then disengage it after use of the expression, right? Maybe not if using a Freaker and the volume is shut off when the pedal is in the heel position. The loop could be always on. But in reality you would probably have a bit noise still bleeding through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) I may have found some things https://reverb.com/item/16695999-electro-harmonix-ehx-dual-output-expression-guitar-effects-pedal-trs-cables Electro-Harmonix EHX Dual Expression Pedal (would have to add distortion and possibly MXR M120 Auto Q Wah) Or this as is Edited September 17, 2021 by NewUser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, NewUser said: I may have found some things https://reverb.com/item/16695999-electro-harmonix-ehx-dual-output-expression-guitar-effects-pedal-trs-cables Electro-Harmonix EHX Dual Expression Pedal (would have to add distortion and possibly MXR M120 Auto Q Wah) Or this as is I love the talking setting - East St Louis Toodle-oo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 That expression pedal won’t do much for you, it’ll only work with certain pedals that have an expression pedal socket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 7 hours ago, dannybuoy said: That expression pedal won’t do much for you, it’ll only work with certain pedals that have an expression pedal socket. I see what you mean, I wondered what those extra jacks were for that I was seeing on some pedals. Now I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 I found a good deal on a Weeping Demon and I'm tempted to get it just to have a new toy, if someone here could please tell me how to fix it? I don't know what part it needs or where to get it? Might even try to repaint it, it's rough scratches are another reason for its reduced price. https://reverb.com/p/ibanez-wd7-weeping-demon/used Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Wrong link, here's the scratched one. https://reverb.com/item/44239962-ibanez-wd7-weeping-demon-wah-guitar-effects-pedal-p-14817 Might actually be able to get a better deal, make offer option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Maybe this? https://www.woundedpawaudio.ca/fx/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 I finally bought something. https://reverb.com/item/42059642-morley-wvo-optical-wah-volume-vintage-tel-ray I don't think I'm ever going to get it to fade blend distortion in the way I was aiming for, but after all the stuff I've seen and heard, I want that sound. Also got a cheap distortion pedal to go with it. JOYO jf-12 Voodoo Octave Divider and Fuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Careful before you plug that in, if it's a 110V US version you'll need a step down transformer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 hours ago, dannybuoy said: Careful before you plug that in, if it's a 110V US version you'll need a step down transformer. How will I know and is there a recommend transformer? The link to the sold Morley is the one I bought, actually photos of it inside and out. Would you please take a quick look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Wait, I'm in the US US version 110V is what I need right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Yeah you'll be fine, assumed you were in the UK! Edited September 20, 2021 by dannybuoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUser Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, dannybuoy said: Yeah you'll be fine, assumed you were in the UK! I came here to learn from the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Another way to crack this walnut: get an HX Stomp and an expression pedal. You could set it up so that the pedal controls the wah frequency and clean/FX blend simultaneously. And you get to take your pick of wah models, fuzz models and whatever else you want to put in the chain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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