fretmeister Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) https://www.boss.info/global/products/sy-200/ Oooo! I'm excited! We need proper bass demos of course but until then... Edited September 16, 2021 by fretmeister 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Looks good! Not sure it's new tech though - seems like a repackaged SY-300, which came out around 2015, in a smaller box? The 128 presets, plus the programmability of the SY-300, give it a nice edge over the SY-1. It also has the Boss visual UI which is better than the FI's and a lot better than the current C4. But in terms of core synth tones, if it is a rehashed SY-300 then IMO the FI and C4 will trump it. Assuming it has the poly tracking of the SY-1, that particular feature is awesome. Edited September 16, 2021 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) Another video (copied below) seems to say it's basically the SY-1 with saveable presets and some more control on things like pitch via midi controls but no more in-depth synth control. I guess the pedals to beat are the C4 and FI, it looks like the SY-200 beats them for interface and if you don't want to plug in to a computer, but not sure about it being able to do the variety of Bass synth tones or things like envelope filters and octavers that they can do, seems a bit more guitar focussed. The video says $300 which is £217 if the UK price is a direct conversion, other Boss 200 pedals are all about £200, that'd make the SY-200 tempting. Edit...boooooo https://www.musicradar.com/news/boss-ir200-sy200-pedals says that it'll be £307 which is less tempting as that's C4 + controller, or FI sort of price. Edited September 16, 2021 by SumOne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Looks good, I would have got that, although I got the FI so I guess I probably wouldn't get it any time soon. Looks an interesting pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, SumOne said: The video says $300 which is £217 if the UK price is a direct conversion, other Boss 200 pedals are all about £200, that'd make the SY-200 tempting. Edit...boooooo https://www.musicradar.com/news/boss-ir200-sy200-pedals says that it'll be £307 which is less tempting as that's C4 + controller, or FI sort of price. Yup $300 plus VAT & customs would put it at around the £280 mark. I guess transport may be a bit more from Japan --> UK than Japan --> US as well. I look forward to getting a used one off @Woodinblack in 12 months' time and I will finally get round to selling him my Boss SY-1 at that point so he can have a spare...😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Looks good, I would have got that, although I got the FI so I guess I probably wouldn't get it any time soon. Looks an interesting pedal. So you have the FI and SY-1 currently? Snap! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Just listened to this and it’s not in tune. Could be his guitar wandering a bit, but it’s painful in places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Al Krow said: So you have the FI and SY-1 currently? Snap! 🙂 I do. I haven't used the FI though, literally I have plugged it in once and not used it - I got it as I thought it was cheap from a link on here, and it wasn't, so I had a bit of a down on it. Should probably plug it in and see if I can use it for something at some point, not that I can really gig it as it is too big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Yup $300 plus VAT & customs would put it at around the £280 mark. I guess transport may be a bit more from Japan --> UK than Japan --> US as well. I look forward to getting a used one off @Woodinblack in 12 months' time and I will finally get round to selling him my Boss SY-1 at that point so he can have a spare...😁 Probably wouldn't be somethign I would sell - I was tempted by the SY1000 for a while, as a replacement for everything else, but it is the effort of having a 13 pin interface again. My SY1 now actually has a permenant song on our set list, so patches would be handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Probably wouldn't be somethign I would sell - I was tempted by the SY1000 for a while, as a replacement for everything else, but it is the effort of having a 13 pin interface again. My SY1 now actually has a permenant song on our set list, so patches would be handy. Yeah - likewise, I was tempted by SY1000 and gave up for similar reasons of thought of having to put aside a bass to kit it out with the necessary interface. So the SY-1 is finally getting gigged, result! Be interested in which song you using it on and what settings? 12 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: I do. I haven't used the FI though, literally I have plugged it in once and not used it - I got it as I thought it was cheap from a link on here, and it wasn't, so I had a bit of a down on it. Should probably plug it in and see if I can use it for something at some point, not that I can really gig it as it is too big That was definitely frustrating on the FI pricing for you. But shame not to use it - in terms of quality of synth tones I think it's still the best bass pedal currently available. And I'm not sure it's too much bigger than the SY-200? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I like the sound of synth Bass but there's something with synth pedals that never quite gels with me (C4, FI, SY-5) I used to muck about a lot with keyboard synths and DAWs which seem better as far as synthesis, on-hand controls and accuracy/sustain etc. but I'm not giving up on Bass synth pedals as I prefer actually playing the Bass to playing keyboards or mucking about on a computer so could see myself getting the SY-200....and then selling it shortly later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 36 minutes ago, SumOne said: I like the sound of synth Bass but there's something with synth pedals that never quite gels with me (C4, FI, SY-5) I used to muck about a lot with keyboard synths and DAWs which seem better as far as synthesis, on-hand controls and accuracy/sustain etc. but I'm not giving up on Bass synth pedals as I prefer actually playing the Bass to playing keyboards or mucking about on a computer so could see myself getting the SY-200....and then selling it shortly later! Ok, first dibs then please!😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Yeah - likewise, I was tempted by SY1000 and gave up for similar reasons of thought of having to put aside a bass to kit it out with the necessary interface. I think if I had just the one bass I played live it would be an easy choice, but there isn't, I use all my basses in rotation, so there isn't even one I use more than the others. If I had a 13 pin it would tie me to one bass. 45 minutes ago, Al Krow said: So the SY-1 is finally getting gigged, result! Be interested in which song you using it on and what settings? the SY-1 has been gigged quite a lot, but I randomly used it on an add-hock basis when I felt like it before, however, after putting the organ patch on 'need your love so bad' the band really liked it, so it has become a permanent on that. It would be nice if it did have patch memories. 45 minutes ago, Al Krow said: That was definitely frustrating on the FI pricing for you. But shame not to use it - in terms of quality of synth tones I think it's still the best bass pedal currently available. And I'm not sure it's too much bigger than the SY-200? I am guessing not much in it. Yes, it would be good to use it but doesn't fit on my board. I will play around with it at home and see what I can do with it. As I said, i plugged it in once and spent about a minute going through some options, which is a bit daft really - I have bought it, I shold make use out of it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I’m 100% grabbing one ASAP!!! The midi adds so much useful stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basskit_case Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 So this is the SY-300 in a new form factor, unsure where this sits in the Boss Synth range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 (edited) I love my Boss Synth. I have come to realise that the ball ache of using a computer to alter a sound is a huge stumbling block for me Also the individual context of a band or room always calls for changing on the fly. If this is an SY1 but with saveable, easily changeable presets, then I'm in. £280 new. Hmm. Edited September 18, 2021 by stewblack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Krow Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) I'm interested to find out just how much more tweakable the 171 presets are on the SY-200 as compared to the 121 presets on the SY1. There appears to be an additional (and important) resonance parameter on the SY-200 in addition to the existing tone / depth which are already available on the SY-1; but what that is going to be able to deliver in terms of usable sounds will be key for me as to whether I'll be upgrading to the SY-200 in due course. Edited September 19, 2021 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The other bit I've gleaned is that the SY-200 has 3 new modes compared to the SY-1: dual - combines lead & pad sweep noise ...looking forward to finding out what these deliver! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumOne Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, Al Krow said: The other bit I've gleaned is that the SY-200 has 3 new modes compared to the SY-1: dual - combines lead & pad sweep noise ...looking forward to finding out what these deliver! Source Audio mentioning (just by chance around the same time that the SY-200 is launched!) that there will be a C4 type thing but with a screen and controls has got me thinking I'll hold out for that - unless it's years away or an extortionate price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, SumOne said: Source Audio mentioning (just by chance around the same time that the SY-200 is launched!) that there will be a C4 type thing but with a screen and controls has got me thinking I'll hold out for that - unless it's years away or an extortionate price. I've popped the question on timing to SA on the TB forum - be interesting to see what they say. But an expanded C4 with with a decent visual UI plus all the stuff you have to buy as extras currently under one bonnet would be a great bit of kit. The C4 has got a better synth engine / core synth tones from what I've heard from @Quatschmacher's clips than the SY-1. (Although he would probably still say that the FI is still the top of the pile in terms of synth engine). Where the SY-1 completely excels is in with its polyphonic glitch free tracking, which is just outrageously good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Yep this sounds great 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Yes, would be keen on getting one of those. I assume it is basically the SY1 with presets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Woodinblack said: Yes, would be keen on getting one of those. I assume it is basically the SY1 with presets? Plus these 3 new modes compared to the SY-1: dual - combines lead & pad sweep noise Particularly interested in what these 3 new modes deliver. @Woodinblack - for completeness, I should add there also appears to be an additional (and important) resonance parameter on the SY-200 which can be tweaked (and stored) in addition to the existing tone / depth which are already available on the SY-1; plus MIDI which was a particular draw for @0175westwood29 Edited October 29, 2021 by Al Krow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 16 hours ago, 0175westwood29 said: Yep this sounds great Btw, seriously nice board, socks, ahh both... 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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