Trueno Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Thinking of buying a Barefaced 1x10 for a superlight rehearsal rig. I’ve read about peeling tolex and don’t want to drop £500 (with cover and silver grill) on a peely-tolexy type thing. The website seems to say that Gen 3 cabs have a whizzy new coating on. What do BC’ers think? I will be contacting Barefaced, but as they want my 500 quid they’ll tell me owt… that was a joke, by the way… Quote
MartinB Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Mine's 2 1/2 years old and no sign of peeling 1 Quote
lownote Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 I asked Alex straight up a while back and he said the original issues were with a dodgy glue supplier, since resolved. FWIW. 1 Quote
Trueno Posted September 23, 2021 Author Posted September 23, 2021 Woohoo! Thanks, guys. Now my real problem… should I actually get a 2x10? I’ll put it to Alex. Quote
lownote Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Having had both, BF are so light weight isn't an issue. Obv one 210 is bulkier. Ohmage could be an issue but the BF 210s is switchable. IMHO the 2x110 set up in black grille would be best for me and looks the dogs. But YMMV. 2 Quote
Trueno Posted September 23, 2021 Author Posted September 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, lownote said: Having had both, BF are so light weight isn't an issue. Obv one 210 is bulkier. Ohmage could be an issue but the BF 210s is switchable. IMHO the 2x110 set up in black grille would be best for me and looks the dogs. But YMMV. That’s plan A for me. Get one for rehearsals and get a second 1x10 if and when the next gig arises. Quote
M@23 Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 No connection to me, but there’s a couple of 1x10, with covers for sale on here AND they have the painted on finish (tuff cab or whatever it’s called) so you don’t have to worry about them doing a striptease for you. Quote
Huge Hands Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 If it helps, I have really early 210s (I think serial numbers 9 and 10?). I bought them new around 2015. I think these were Alex's first main foray into Tolex. I had peeling issues. I only live about half an hour away from Barefaced, so took them back and got a temp repair in 2016. - it didn't last. I was quite poorly around 2017, but Alex kindly had another look once I was well enough to take them back around 2018. He showed me some sort of hot glue rolling machine they had bought for Tolex (looked like an old washing mangle) and talked through some of the issues they'd had. I left the cabs with him, so not sure how they repaired them, whether they glued the edges or pulled the Tolex fully off and replaced but I've had no issues since. Quote
fretmeister Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Trueno said: That’s plan A for me. Get one for rehearsals and get a second 1x10 if and when the next gig arises. I had a pair for ages. I really liked them. I sold them when I got a Super Twin which I also love, but I'm thinking about getting another One10 for when the ST is a bit silly to take with me. 1 Quote
Merton Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 I have two One10s, one is a 2017 model with a tiny bit of peeling whilst the other is 2019 with a newer tolex and no peeling at all. I’d have no doubt about buying new at all 1 Quote
mr4stringz Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Trueno said: Woohoo! Thanks, guys. Now my real problem… should I actually get a 2x10? I’ll put it to Alex. Strap yourself in for a likely detailed and informative response! Ace company. I love my Two10. 1 Quote
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 I bought one of the first Generation 3 Big Twins. No issues whatsoever and it has travelled a lot! 1 Quote
Pea Turgh Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 I had 2x One10s but sold them when I needed dosh. Bought a Two10 then. No peeling issues on any of them. Having had both, I’d probably just have 2x One10s for the modular option (plus it makes such a cool micro stack!) 2 Quote
BassManGraham Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Trueno said: Thinking of buying a Barefaced 1x10 for a superlight rehearsal rig. I’ve read about peeling tolex and don’t want to drop £500 (with cover and silver grill) on a peely-tolexy type thing. The website seems to say that Gen 3 cabs have a whizzy new coating on. What do BC’ers think? I will be contacting Barefaced, but as they want my 500 quid they’ll tell me owt… that was a joke, by the way… I have a fairly old Barefaced Super Twelve with the stippled paint finish. Barefaced supply a touch up kit, and the gloopy paint is so easy to apply. My cab looks (and sounds) like new after a good few years of regular gigs. Personally I prefer stippled paint or carpet to tolex. Trace Elliot used to use a really tough tolex (Kevlar?), but decent glue is key to any non-paint covering. Edited September 23, 2021 by BassManGraham Quote
Trueno Posted September 23, 2021 Author Posted September 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, BassManGraham said: I have a fairly old Barefaced Super Twelve with the stippled paint finish. Barefaced supply a touch up kit, and the gloopy paint is so easy to apply. My cab looks (and sounds) like new after a good few years of regular gigs. Personally I prefer stippled paint or carpet to tolex. Trace Elliot used to use a really tough tolex (Kevlar?), but decent glue is key to any non-paint covering. Yes… just noticed you can order the stippled finish for a bit extra… I like the look of it. I have tolex on two Rumbles and an Orange amp and never has any issues. Quote
BassManGraham Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Definitely the way to go. Damaged Tolex can't be easily fixed. The gloopy paint effectively covers all manner of scratches, chips, gouges etc. I have a really beat up SWR cab with missing/torn carpet, I am thinking of giving it a facelift with stippled paint. Quote
Trueno Posted September 23, 2021 Author Posted September 23, 2021 Thanks for all the replies. Just have to sell the old stuff now… Quote
Kev Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 2018 tolex peeled and as of 2019 Alex apparently had no way of fixing my cabs, so I sold them as is. Not sure if the glue has changed since then. I would avoid the tolex finish and ask for the painted finish, that's solid and easy to touch up too. 2 Quote
Merton Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Kev said: 2018 tolex peeled and as of 2019 Alex apparently had no way of fixing my cabs, so I sold them as is. Not sure if the glue has changed since then. I would avoid the tolex finish and ask for the painted finish, that's solid and easy to touch up too. Both glue and tolex were changed in 2019 AIUI Quote
Kev Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Merton said: Both glue and tolex were changed in 2019 AIUI Interesting to know. Re: Tolex, my issue was with the "Tweed" tolex they used, so not the regular one. It shrunk as much as it peeled. 1 Quote
buff Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 Ive had an early two10 from new, mines not lifted but it looks like its shrunk slightly. Always kept in a padded cover when not being used. not sure if its helped. Quote
chris_b Posted September 23, 2021 Posted September 23, 2021 My 2 110's have slight peeling, but it's at the back, so no problem. Quote
alexa3020 Posted September 25, 2021 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) I ended up selling my 2x210’s on fairly quickly - great cabs, but not really what I was after. In my opinion, they would have benefited having a tweeter. Therefore I’d consider a 110t - although I haven’t seen any reviews on them just yet Also, I asked Alex during the buying process about the tolex. He confirmed that was no longer a problem. Edited September 25, 2021 by alexa3020 1 Quote
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