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70's Punk - whats the ideal bass ?


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On 05/10/2021 at 17:55, spongebob said:

70s Punk? Think you'd have a job to beat a P bass, both in looks and tone.

 

Probably covers most of the bass parts played in that era!

A beat up Precision.

 

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And maybe a well-used Ric (but don't throw that one at a wall!).

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Just now, dmccombe7 said:

You still got your WAL bass. Is the ACG better to play ?

Wal is still the best, but I tend to leave it at home nowadays for value reasons.

But both the ACG and the Parker are excellent to play - ACG perhaps better but it doesn't half eat batteries!

The Sandberg even gets an occasional outing too...

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6 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said:

Wal is still the best, but I tend to leave it at home nowadays for value reasons.

But both the ACG and the Parker are excellent to play - ACG perhaps better but it doesn't half eat batteries!

The Sandberg even gets an occasional outing too...

Tried a Parker at a fellow BC'ers house when i delivered a Yamaha desk approx 10-12 yrs ago. Amazing bass to play, i really liked it.

I think it was @warwickhunt but could be wrong.

Had a WAL back in 80's and very nice to play. Not tried an ACG but i like the look of them.

Dave

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On 27/09/2024 at 07:30, Skybone said:

There is something a bit disconcerting watching people in their 50's playing "Teenage Kicks". 🤔😄

Very disconcerting.  I comfort myself with the thought that The Undertones (minus Feargal Sharkey) are still touring and one would feel short changed if they didn’t perform Teenage Kicks.

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17 minutes ago, SteveXFR said:

Surely the most punk bass would be something like a hollowbody Epiphone just because it's not the typical punk bass. 

 

"We went to a Sex Pistols gig and decided to form a band and the next day [guitarist] Bernard Sumner said ‘Go get a bass’."

 

Borrowing £35 from his mother, he went to Mazel’s in Manchester in search of a bass, but there was one slight problem - he didn’t quite know what a bass guitar was or did. "The guy in the shop asked which one I wanted and that stumped me, I just kept saying ‘bass’ guitar. He must have thought, ‘God, I’ve got a right one here, another idiot from that Sex Pistols gig!’ When he grabbed the nearest one, I said it wouldn’t do because there was only four strings - and that’s when he told me, ‘No son, basses only have four’."

 

The punk convert proudly rode the bus home with his new Gibson EB-0 replica wrapped in a black binliner and its headstock poking out. He "plinked and plonked" that night and then began rehearsing with Bernard the following day, with no idea of even how to tune the thing.

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1 hour ago, SteveXFR said:

Surely the most punk bass would be something like a hollowbody Epiphone just because it's not the typical punk bass. 

 

Getting closer to your point, I just listened to youtube demos and covers using the Ibanez semi that's just been listened on BC marketplace - yes, if you were wanting to produce something fresh and original and characterful, that would be very good start. 

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On 27/09/2024 at 07:30, Skybone said:

There is something a bit disconcerting watching people in their 50's playing "Teenage Kicks". 🤔😄

 

Yeah, especially with how much the song was championed by and associated with John Peel, given how the discussion about him has moved on. (That bit isn't the Undertones' fault, but it doesn't help)

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6 minutes ago, Munurmunuh said:

 

No, I'm thinking of Teenage Kicks. Change "you" to "it" and the song becomes a rather better recounting of the adolescent male experience

Not following you on this one i'm afraid. ? Am i looking at a different song :biggrin:

Dave

 

Teenage Kicks

Song by The Undertones

 

Are teenage dreams so hard to beat?
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

 

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

 

I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over 'cause I'm all alone
I need excitement oh I need it bad
And it's the best, I've ever had

 

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night, all right

 

Are teenage dreams so hard to beat?
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

 

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night

 

I'm gonna call her on the telephone
Have her over 'cause I'm all alone
I need excitement oh I need it bad
And it's the best, I've ever had

 

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night, all right

 

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night, all right

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10 minutes ago, Munurmunuh said:

 

No, I'm thinking of Teenage Kicks. Change "you" to "it" and the song becomes a rather better recounting of the adolescent male experience


I live and learn, though apparently that is only Feargal’s story and it is denied by John O’Neill, who wrote the song

 

Feargal Sharkey

 

 

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Just received a comment on my blog as follows:

"Andy Ferguson here, manager of The Undertones. I just spotted your picture of Feargal Sharkey at:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FergalSharkey.jpg

In your comments you say that Feargal said the "teenage Kicks" was about masturbation. I don't know what he was on that day but that is total nonsense.Feargal Sharkey did not write "Teenage Kicks" or any of The Undertones songs. It was written 100% by John O'Neill. The lyrics were never changed from the day it was written to the day it was recorded and it was never and is not about masturbation. John O'Neill is adamant on this matter. It is defamatory to say that that is the subject matter.
I'm sure you'd rather have the truth printed in your name so I'm sure you will want to correct this.
Andy Ferguson
[email protected]"

I'm not lying when I state that Feargal did indeed say that, and therefore if anyone is guilty of defamatory comments, it's Feargal, not me. However I'm happy to repeat Andy's comments here so both sides of the story are represented.


 

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3 minutes ago, cybertect said:


I live and learn, though apparently that is only Feargal’s story and it is denied by John O’Neill, who wrote the song

 

Feargal Sharkey


 

[quote]Just received a comment on my blog as follows:

"Andy Ferguson here, manager of The Undertones. I just spotted your picture of Feargal Sharkey at:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FergalSharkey.jpg

In your comments you say that Feargal said the "teenage Kicks" was about masturbation. I don't know what he was on that day but that is total nonsense.Feargal Sharkey did not write "Teenage Kicks" or any of The Undertones songs. It was written 100% by John O'Neill. The lyrics were never changed from the day it was written to the day it was recorded and it was never and is not about masturbation. John O'Neill is adamant on this matter. It is defamatory to say that that is the subject matter.
I'm sure you'd rather have the truth printed in your name so I'm sure you will want to correct this.
Andy Ferguson
[email protected]"

I'm not lying when I state that Feargal did indeed say that, and therefore if anyone is guilty of defamatory comments, it's Feargal, not me. However I'm happy to repeat Andy's comments here so both sides of the story are represented.[/quote]

well there you go, I definitely saw an interview with Feargal where he said "Teenage Kicks is basically about wanking" so I suppose that indicates that was his interpretation of the lyrics.

I have no problem playing Teenage Kicks at gigs, us old men are allowed to look back wistfully at times gone by when we lusted after a girl

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9 minutes ago, PaulWarning said:

well there you go, I definitely saw an interview with Feargal where he said "Teenage Kicks is basically about wanking" so I suppose that indicates that was his interpretation of the lyrics.

I have no problem playing Teenage Kicks at gigs, us old men are allowed to look back wistfully at times gone by when we lusted after a girl


Yes, this seems to a point of contention between Feargal and the rest of the band, with John himself contacting The Independent to get the story corrected when they reported it.

😄

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/matthew-bell-the-ios-diary-5498401.html

 

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Ding a ling. It's a phone call from The Undertones, ringing in to correct a story in last week's paper. They say that Feargal Sharkey's got it all wrong about "Teenage Kicks", after he told an audience at the Independent literary festival that the song was originally about masturbation. "I've no idea where Feargal got that idea," says John O'Neill, who in fact wrote the song. "That is not a subject I would write a song about." Feargal sticks to his story when I call, but the rest of the band are fuming, pointing out that Feargal didn't write any of the band's songs and that his claim damages the band's name. I think we'll tip-toe away from this one.


A band I was in in the early 90s had a deal nixed by Feargal Sharkey when he was at Polydor, so I will side with John on this 🤪

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