solo4652 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Looking for ideas for a half-decent, busking combo to amplify my cajon when busking. 20w to 30w should suffice, with 4 inputs to accommodate; acoustic guitar, two vocal mics, and my cajon mic. All recommendations gratefully received. Edited October 15, 2021 by solo4652 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Will you be busking in resonant spaces (eg railway arches) or completely outdoors? I ask as I used my phil jones double4 running off a battery as a two channel system for my Contrabassoon effects and samples. In railway arches it is the perfect volume. In unsupported areas - footpath etc it completely dissappears. It's like I'm making no sound at all. I have seen people running multi instrument sets ups in outdoor spaces using the new 240v powerblock systems and using a mixer into a single powered pa speaker. If I was starting from scratch tomorrow this is the route I would go. The battery for my double4 was 100quid right off the bat which makes this thing pretty good value - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jackery-Portable-Explorer-Generator-Outdoors/dp/B08RNPYLQW/ It says it will provide 200w (400w peak) so that would do a mixer and 100watt+ PA speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 other options - I see a lot of solo singer guitarists using the Roland street cube. Once away from a supportive resonant wall they sound awful to my ears - really straining hard. The newer street cube ex is much better. I was watching a player with one yesterday. It is clearly more powerful and they were running several inputs. The sound was much nicer. I see Harley Benton now have a busking amp that may be worth a look: https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_streetbox_60.htm?ref=mobile#bewertung If you could run two of these you'd be spreading the headroom a bit - ideal for percussive instruments like your Cajon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlefeeder Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Woodwind said: Will you be busking in resonant spaces (eg railway arches) or completely outdoors? I ask as I used my phil jones double4 running off a battery as a two channel system for my Contrabassoon effects and samples. In railway arches it is the perfect volume. In unsupported areas - footpath etc it completely dissappears. It's like I'm making no sound at all. I have seen people running multi instrument sets ups in outdoor spaces using the new 240v powerblock systems and using a mixer into a single powered pa speaker. If I was starting from scratch tomorrow this is the route I would go. The battery for my double4 was 100quid right off the bat which makes this thing pretty good value - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jackery-Portable-Explorer-Generator-Outdoors/dp/B08RNPYLQW/ It says it will provide 200w (400w peak) so that would do a mixer and 100watt+ PA speaker The problem with inverter + mains systems is the standing current drawn by the amplifier. It may only be 12 watts which is insignificant on mains, but that alone is 1 amp continuously from the battery, and that assumes that your inverter is 100% efficient. My amplifier plus inverter takes 1.5 amps before it produces any sound. A better route is to use a car audio amplifier connected directly to a 12 volt power pack - less voltage conversion eating up your battery power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Car amplifier is a great idea. Several 12v mixers around to run all the OP's inputs from this as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mottlefeeder Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) On 15/10/2021 at 17:29, Woodwind said: Car amplifier is a great idea. Several 12v mixers around to run all the OP's inputs from this as well The picture below shows: On the left, a Class AB stereo car amp bolted to a piece of plywood, and connected in bridge mode to give 75W RMS into 8 ohms or 150W RMS into 4 ohms. With the 7 AHr battery shown, it gives about 2 hours of playing time. On the right, a Class D 4-channel amp which I use as 2 bridged pairs, each giving 35W into 8 ohms, or 80 W into 4 ohms. Using the 7AHr battery, I busked for nearly 5 hours and it was still going. The mixer I use is the Behringer 1002B, which runs on mains, or two 9 volt batteries. https://www.andertons.co.uk/behringer-1002b-battery-powered-analog-mixer-000-a0401-00010?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtrSLBhCLARIsACh6RmgidspbWPV-o7EHRGp4bv5UzMbTzEJSkdUOqxtAMiEnW3izZmrxuAMaAgUrEALw_wcB Not a combo, but less than half of the price of a street cube if you use an existing smallish speaker cab. David Edited October 18, 2021 by Mottlefeeder Added mixer picture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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