bottomfeed Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Recently bought an Ernie Ball microfiber cloth and on the back there is a warning saying that it may cause cancer and 'reproductive harm' ... WTF!!! Is California particularly hypersensitive to whatever chemicals are used to make a guitar cloth!?.. or should we all be worried!? Why are there chemical used in the process of cloth making that could cause these kind of harms?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Where you planning on eating it? If not I'm pretty sure you'll be ok. Edit: ........I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnesia Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I deal with Prop 65 on a nearly daily basis. Its just Californians being a bit sensitive. Sure the 5 or so things on the Prop 65 list are nasty, but its no worse that chemicals on the REACh or TSCA lists of doom. I view it akin to the "May contain nuts" warning on a Hazelnut Whirl... Just don't eat it and you will be fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 It's exactly the same warning with Ernie Ball strings containing nickel... I think it's only a way to protect themselves against the typical American habit to sue everyone for nothing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Be careful, my cousin's friend once used an Ernie Ball polishing cloth and his testicles became so swollen his girlfriend called off their wedding. 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I know of one bloke who touched an Ernie Ball polishing cloth once, and next day he got cancer of the knob and died. He's never got over it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Probbaly best to use a different cloth to polish your nob, just to be on the safe side. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maude Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Loads of things have this California warning. Next they'll be telling you not to fire bottle rockets out yer arse. California. The Nanny State. 😉 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just don’t use it on your Ernie Balls😉 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: Be careful, my cousin's friend once used an Ernie Ball polishing cloth and his testicles became so swollen his girlfriend called off their wedding. That's the biggest loads of boll0cks I've ever heard 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Maude said: California. The Nanny State It's not that. It's due to the fact that we live in such litigious times. Companies are printing warnings on everything in an attempt to cover themselves in case someone turns up with a rent-a-lawyer complaining that a product caused cancer, made them grow an extra head, etc, etc. Can't really blame them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I think it's just way too expensive to prove there is harmless levels of residues to the satisfaction of the Californian gummint. A bit of extra ink on the label keeps everyone safe from lawsuits. What's a mystery to me is how come no Californian has sued the gummint for exposing them to all the toxins building up in warehouses and shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyTravis Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, TheGreek said: That's the biggest loads of boll0cks I've ever heard 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyman Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Stub Mandrel said: Looking gooood there, Stubz 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Downunderwonder said: I think it's just way too expensive to prove there is harmless levels of residues to the satisfaction of the Californian gummint. A bit of extra ink on the label keeps everyone safe from lawsuits. What's a mystery to me is how come no Californian has sued the gummint for exposing them to all the toxins building up in warehouses and shops. It's a crazy country. You wouldn't be able to sell a product like that in the UK, let alone absolve yourself of any legal obligations. Imagine trying to sell brake pads with 'warning: contains asbestos' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britsie Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 You guys clean your strings!! 😳 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, TimR said: It's a crazy country. You wouldn't be able to sell a product like that in the UK, let alone absolve yourself of any legal obligations. Imagine trying to sell brake pads with 'warning: contains asbestos' A product like what? We're talking about amps made like amps always have been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I was in far east in a business trip. There was this big warning attached to a unit in my hotel room. A hair dryer most likely contains some solder inside it. Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The premise behind the California legislation is that if a substance is particularly harmful, then its presence should be highlighted to the purchaser. How do you do this and have manageable exceptions. Some electrical goods have accessible solder a child could chew, others don't. Do you have complex, expensive rules and tests like those for insulating live components, or just stick a cheap label on everything? It's like 'may contain peanuts' on a bag of peanuts. Do you have a law that says everything that may contain peanuts must be labelled unless it's obvious it contains peanuts? How do you define which products 'obviously' contain peanuts? Yes it generates mirth when warnings seem tautological or over-exaggerated, but in truth this is simply a pragmatic approach that avoids excess expense and litigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Sue them for the distress caused by the warning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Hellzero said: It's exactly the same warning with Ernie Ball strings containing nickel... I think it's only a way to protect themselves against the typical American habit of eating everything they see Corrected this for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 15, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Stub Mandrel said: It's like 'may contain peanuts' on a bag of peanuts. Do you have a law that says everything that may contain peanuts must be labelled unless it's obvious it contains peanuts? How do you define which products 'obviously' contain peanuts? You don't have that labelling on peanuts. Peanuts are not nuts, you will have a warning on peanuts that says may contain nuts because they are prepared in a factory that prepares nuts. People who are allergic to nuts are not necessarily allergic to peanuts and people who are allergic to peanuts are not necessarily allergic to nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: A product like what? We're talking about amps made like amps always have been made. A product that has a latent danger to someone when it is used in the normal way. I don't know how it works in other counties but if you sell something in the UK that you know is dangerous, you have to design out the danger. eg I do know that in the US PPE is the first thing you do to protect people, in the UK it's the last thing you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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