OK, you can all give up the bass and go home now

[4000]

22 hours ago, Alien said:

Let's be honest here - either would have been a pretty amazing thing to have done at any age.  Fantastic tune.

 

A

One of my favourite pieces of music by anyone, anywhere, at any time. But I think Kate is a genius. 

[Bunion]

I practiced drinking as a youngster and for sure I’m as accomplished now probably more so than I ever was… 🥴

[leftybassman392]

Popped up unbidden on my Youtube this morning:

 

 

 

 

[upside downer]

1 hour ago, leftybassman392 said:

Popped up unbidden on my Youtube this morning:

 

 

 

 

 

Pffft. I could jiggle an egg shaker when I was 6. Granted, not in time, but still...

[musicbassman]

1 hour ago, leftybassman392 said:

Popped up unbidden on my Youtube this morning:

 

 

 

 

Hotel Coercion, more like.

Sorry, but I watched this with an unhappy mix of admiration and horror.

[leftybassman392]

2 hours ago, musicbassman said:

Hotel Coercion, more like.

Sorry, but I watched this with an unhappy mix of admiration and horror.

 

I think it's South Korean. One of the best - and most successful - education systems in the world; just sayin'...

 

Not so sure we're in any position to pass judgement TBH.

 

 

Edited November 14, 2021 by leftybassman392

[ordep]

I like the upstroke jazz fills of the 2nd (tenor) eggshaker. 
 

kidding aside, good job. When I was her age I was probably still eating dirt.

Edited November 14, 2021 by ordep

[Velarian]

I expect the Eagles’ copyright control freaks will end up taking it down 🙁 Meanies. 

[neilp]

It's all very clever, but it's closer to a video game than it is to music. Get these kids out playing music with other humans, and then maybe they'll turn into great musicians. Youtube channels can't do that

[Woodinblack]

4 hours ago, leftybassman392 said:

I think it's South Korean. One of the best - and most successful - education systems in the world; just sayin'...

 

4th highest suicide rate in the world. I would say they are failing quite badly myself.

[skankdelvar]

23 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

 

4th highest suicide rate in the world. I would say they are failing quite badly myself.

 

Not as badly as the top 2.

 

1. Lesotho - 72.4
2. Guyana - 40.3
3. Eswatini - 29.4
4. South Korea - 28.6
5. Kiribati - 28.3
6. Federated States of Micronesia - 28.2
7. Lithuania - 26.1
8. Suriname - 25.4
9. Russia - 25.1
10. South Africa - 23.5

Thinking about it, that's a pretty random list of different cultures and Korea's not that much of an outlier. Lesotho must be grim, though.

 

Edited November 14, 2021 by skankdelvar
Errant thing

[fleabag]

My entire bass rig is  up for sale if any mediocre bassists are in the market for some mediocre bass gear not being played by a mediocre bass muppet

[leftybassman392]

4 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

4th highest suicide rate in the world. I would say they are failing quite badly myself.

 

Depends how you measure success.

 

Tell you what; let's agree to disagree.

 

[Woodinblack]

8 hours ago, leftybassman392 said:

 

Depends how you measure success.

 

Your kids not being driven to kill themselves because of the pressure of your education system.

 

8 hours ago, leftybassman392 said:

Tell you what; let's agree to disagree.

 

ok!

[Stub Mandrel]

19 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

4th highest suicide rate in the world. I would say they are failing quite badly myself.

 

This made me look it up.

 

They dropped from 4th in 2012 to 12th in 2019.

 

The high suicide rate is largely  down to a very high rate among the elderly, due to a range of issues around poverty etc.

 

However there are issues with self-harm and suicide among the young with rates appearing to be double those in Europe.

 

[leftybassman392]

Last contribution from me in this thread...

 

I posted a Youtube video that seemed to me to chime with @skankdelvar's OP, and was posted in the spirit that he posted his. Call me naive, but I saw no coercion in the video I posted. I saw a talented 6-year-old able to sing and play multiple instruments to a high standard, not to mention being able to use a studio environment to overlay multiple tracks. I saw it as a Good Thing.

 

Had I known I would become involved in an argument a discussion about the education system in South Korea I would have saved myself the aggravation.

 

That said:

 

 

• Whilst I would accept that self-harm and suicide are an issue for the country, I would politely point out that the same or similar could be said of many other countries around the world (including the UK by the way - perhaps this document will make the point). That being the case, judging the success of a country's education system by the criterion of not having its population commit suicide appears to suggest that pretty much every country on the planet is failing its children to some degree. Do we really believe that?

 

• Furthermore, the rate of actual suicides among school-age children appears from the chart above (acknowledgement to @Stub Mandrel for posting it) to have been around 1 in 100,000 in South Korea in 2012, since when it appears to have gone down.

 

I do so love to be involved in discussions where participants understand the matters whereof they speak.

 

I'm out.

 

 

 

[Woodinblack]

28 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said:

Had I known I would become involved in an argument a discussion about the education system in South Korea I would have saved myself the aggravation.

 

I had no issue with the video, I didn't see it. I was just commenting on the education system. If I had realised that putting this throw-away comment would be too upsetting for some people I would have also not bothered. I thought we had agreed to disagree.

 

 

28 minutes ago, leftybassman392 said:

Whilst I would accept that self-harm and suicide are an issue for the country, I would politely point out that the same or similar could be said of many other countries around the world (including the UK by the way - perhaps this document will make the point). That being the case, judging the success of a country's education system by the criterion of not having its population commit suicide appears to suggest that pretty much every country on the planet is failing its children to some degree. Do we really believe that?

 

To some degree yes. I just think there is more to an education system than how the education of children turn out. It came from watching a program quite a while ago by a South Korean guy about their eduction when people were complaining that our system was too lax (which maybe it is, and maybe things have changed since, esp. with the lockdown), where a lot of south korean children were dealing with a lot of stress, with a risk of suicide due to the fierce competition of the schools, and how failing in school in SK, pretty well condemns your future in a way it probably doesn't here.

 

Sorry for the diversion. 

 

[Velarian]

More good stuff from Ellen Alaverdyan and her dad:

 

 

[chris_b]

Very good. . . she's getting better every time she puts out a video!!

[Linus27]

On 31/12/2021 at 09:58, Velarian said:

More good stuff from Ellen Alaverdyan and her dad:

 

 

Yep, very good, proper, accomplished musicianship and no silly faces or look at me playing 1000's of notes per second, just great playing and a good piece of music. Nice MarkBass rig as well.

[Owen]

I am worried about resale on that bass given the changes on the headstock. This is a sad indictment on what I see and hear rather than acknowledging that this a cracking performance with real verve.

Edited January 1, 2022 by owen

[BreadBin]

1 hour ago, owen said:

I am worried about resale on that bass given the changes on the headstock. This is a sad indictment on what I see and hear rather than acknowledging that this a cracking performance with real verve.

Isn't it just stuck on?

[Bunion]

Must be great growing in that kind of environment. 
Professional musicians dropping by, professional gear lying about with people who know how to use it. 
Shes a lucky girl. 

[Owen]

27 minutes ago, BreadBin said:

Isn't it just stuck on?

Let's hope so. Probably some sort of Fat Finger device to change the resonant frequency of the neck. 

[Bunion]

I think money for resale is the last of the worries in that household probably a freebie 🤣😂