iBudd Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Apologies if this is in the wrong section, but I'm trying to nail a particular bass sound for a spot of recording, and I'm going round in circles. I've tried plectrums, mutes, flats etc and I'm not quite getting it. It's the tone from this Piero Piccioni cut - am I mad or is there some spring reverb on it? Is that what's giving it that trebly edge? I'm sure someone here will have some insight - any advice gratefully received! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Microphone placement. Unless I’m mistaken that’s a double bass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Thanks for posting, I really liked it. I'd say could be double bass too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Yeah, thanks for posting... To me, that sounds like a Pick and flats, played near the neck. The extra edge might be because it's a Jazz Bass? On another note, Piero Piccioni composed some great film scores back in the 60's and 70's. His string arranging was beautiful and very romantic. Great voicings..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBudd Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, paul_5 said: Microphone placement. Unless I’m mistaken that’s a double bass. 1 hour ago, EssentialTension said: Thanks for posting, I really liked it. I'd say could be double bass too. I really hadn't considered that it might be double bass, how interesting. The articulation feels so solid to me that I assumed I could hear frets, but I'll listen with fresh ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBudd Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, lowdown said: Yeah, thanks for posting... To me, that sounds like a Pick and flats, played near the neck. The extra edge might be because it's a Jazz Bass? On another note, Piero Piccioni composed some great film scores back in the 60's and 70's. His string arranging was beautiful and very romantic. Great voicings..!! That is lovely string writing. The man could really mix it up - this one does a lovely 180 flip about 3 minutes in. I just wish we knew more about the personnel on these Italian cinema cuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, iBudd said: That is lovely string writing. The man could really mix it up - this one does a lovely 180 flip about 3 minutes in. I just wish we knew more about the personnel on these Italian cinema cuts Yes, his writing and arranging skills were terrific. His Big Band stuff was good too.... Oddly enough, at around 3:15 of that video, it sounds like the same Bass player in style and sound. If you listen through headphones you can quite clearly hear it is an Electric played with a pick. Very much the sound and style of that era. The more you listen to Piero Piccioni, the more you become a fan of his music and start hunting down more of him. His music was very catchy. It is difficult trying to track down the musicians on his sessions. A few in this link but unfortunately, not the Bassist. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/piero-piccioni/colpo-rovente/ Edited November 9, 2021 by lowdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBudd Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, lowdown said: Yes, his writing and arranging skills were terrific. His Big Band stuff was good too.... Oddly enough, at around 3:15 of that video, it sounds like the same Bass player in style and sound. If you listen through headphones you can quite clearly hear it is an Electric played with a pick. Very much the sound and style of that era. The more you listen to Piero Piccioni, the more you become a fan of his music and start hunting down more of him. His music was very catchy. It is difficult trying to track down the musicians on his sessions. A few in this link but unfortunately, not the Bassist. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/piero-piccioni/colpo-rovente/ Yeah the bass on the track is quite similar. I'm going to keep going with a Jazz bass and pick approach, I'm still finding it hard to quite nail that deep-but-twangy tone, I think it's the depth that suggests double bass. I suppose it's not surprising - these guys had amazing spaces to record in and any number of now-classic preamps and compressors - not to mention producers and engineers that knew what they were doing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, lowdown said: If you listen through headphones you can quite clearly hear it is an Electric played with a pick. Very much the sound and style of that era. Agreed Jazz bass and flats played with a pick nearer to the neck is very much the sound of that era and that could easily be what this is but I feel I hear something else, maybe in the recording process or pre-amp. Listening again , I am more leaning towards it being an electric bass with flats and pick. Anyway, it sounds great. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I asked my son, who I am afraid to say is more widely knowledgable about music than me, if he was familiar with Piero Piccioni. Of course he was, and then also recommended the more contemporary El Michels Affair ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Might as well turn it into a Piero Piccioni appreciation thread. He is worthy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I have just noticed this 'Piero Piccioni' YouTube channel with plenty of his material on. https://www.youtube.com/c/pieropiccioni/videos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBudd Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 09:37, EssentialTension said: I asked my son, who I am afraid to say is more widely knowledgable about music than me, if he was familiar with Piero Piccioni. Of course he was, and then also recommended the more contemporary El Michels Affair ... Love El MIchels. I don't know his new one but 'Adult Themes' got heavy rotation here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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