0175westwood29 Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Yeh, it would be two cabs with the same signal - if you want stereo / bi-amping you would presumably want two amps. yeh thats cool just need something that can drive two cabs sometimes ideally as it save two heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisan2 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Anyone know how many watts the abm 600 evo iv puts out at 8 ohms thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Chrisan2 said: Anyone know how many watts the abm 600 evo iv puts out at 8 ohms thanks In an ideal world it'd be 300W. NB this is the maximum possible output so in the real world if you had a 250W cab you would probably be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Gear4 music have this for sale: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/305056861479?epid=1450637698&hash=item4706ce4d27:g:5UYAAOSwa~tkzOsX&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwLTKOMg5Hfyo%2FyYgTU%2FLiWVaVqvwOTD4qKgwxhti65Bk0dQbggWq5jqq004r6r7cj3EGK9ailfYz78hLorZEwkkrbg%2B284E%2BAS0FPRxE7PRpkTCtp5IY5ZaCUYStsJ4Wy4dDmfoOPcwEdK%2B9FzzZpPZlgOqmeurxZRRoFLhWWIMujPPse5H8t3vcH0G%2Fog9xc3NHL0yV55uSkBRcJS5ptPDunZjkGl%2B9r7OCiml0SWybxN19KmrQv3qDTffw23g2mg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-CdlMK-Yg I think it's a new, but damaged, head and, as we know, Ashdown will probably repair it for a pittance. Anybody want to snap it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyc Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, TheGreek said: I think it's a new, but damaged, head and, as we know, Ashdown will probably repair it for a pittance. Anybody want to snap it up? What on earth happened to it? I've dropped my ABM badly and it all damage was cosmetic. This.....is something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Not sure what you would have to do to do this much damage. Maybe a fork lift truck in the warehouse was involved. - Damaged speaker/jack input. - Dent in back of chassis - Some inputs are bent - PCB broken inside - One of the fans is not working No power supply included. Maybe make an offer... Edited August 14, 2023 by TheGreek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 fans, that must be pretty noisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDean Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: 4 fans, that must be pretty noisy Yeah, but are you going to hear that over the sound of 2x810 cabs? That thing isn't meant for anything but the biggest stages! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaebass Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, MichaelDean said: Yeah, but are you going to hear that over the sound of 2x810 cabs? That thing isn't meant for anything but the biggest stages! True , probably a bit overkill for home use 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, Reggaebass said: True , probably a bit overkill for home use Noooo, not at all! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 16 minutes ago, Marky L said: Noooo, not at all! Only if this is your house... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, TheGreek said: Not sure what you would have to do to do this much damage. - Damaged speaker/jack input. - Dent in back of chassis - Some inputs are bent - PCB broken inside - One of the fans is not working No power supply included. Put it in a pirate rehearsal room for a week? Edited August 14, 2023 by la bam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, asingardenof said: Only if this is your house... Oi! That's my shed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGBass Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, TheGreek said: I think it's a new, but damaged, head and, as we know, Ashdown will probably repair it for a pittance. Anybody want to snap it up? I saw this recently and for me anyway, its not more than fifty or sixty quids worth of parts without a few photos of what has happened internally. Apart from it being an ABM1200 which is a rare beast and fairly impractical for pub gigs, the damaged back panel looks particualrly terminal. Any impacted surface moves a fair bit in the direction of impact before springing back into place albeit in this case not all the steel panel has come back flat as it should be. The back board will be broken for sure. Both fans likely impacted the dual output boards and hit the heat sinks. They could be ripped out of position or the boards split. Either way thats two APC033 output boards, potentially two new fans, a back board and its possible the transformer could have been impacted. If that needs replacing you could be looking at a £400 repair bill in parts before the metal work is straightened out. I suppose if you already had an ABM1200 it would be and ideal source of spares you could pick at for years to come, but not for the current asking price. The case also looks like it has a split or been weakened at one side🤔 Must have been a very heavy impact and no telling what else might have been damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 I thought that there would be excessive damage but would the repair bill exceed the cost of the repair? If not, it could still be a good buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGBass Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Yes still could be a good buy. Until anyone looks inside to see whats needed, we'll never know for sure what it would cost to fix. Dave Green at Ashdown could no doubt work wonders with the internals but I'm not sure if Ashdown employ any panel beaters to fix bent metal work😆 I've had occasion to try and straighten out a bent ABM in the past and its fairly heavy grade steel these are made from. They don't bend out of shape or back into shape easily. Definitely a project for a real enthusiast methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 back in the abm club with cabs anyway 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 16/08/2023 at 18:26, 0175westwood29 said: back in the abm club with cabs anyway I dig the soft focus.. the focus of lurrrve ❤️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 18/08/2023 at 16:39, Marky L said: I dig the soft focus.. the focus of lurrrve ❤️ not sure why my phone did that lol however something sounded awful the rig last night, hoping its my peavey bass head having issues with being 50 plus yrs old! got a gig friday and have a new amp lined up which was meant as backup but wil for the min be the main one! its ashdown tho and also looking at an abm 500 for sale locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boristhespider7 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 I'm an ABM 500 Evo III owner. Is it worth upgrading to the Evo 4? I appreciate its only 2 extra sliders on the EQ plus some more gain to the valve section. Is it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, boristhespider7 said: I'm an ABM 500 Evo III owner. Is it worth upgrading to the Evo 4? I appreciate its only 2 extra sliders on the EQ plus some more gain to the valve section. Is it worth it? If you want to be able to get a more precise sound then I’d say yes as the EVO4 just has that bit more in that area, probably due to the additional sliders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 18/08/2023 at 16:39, Marky L said: I dig the soft focus.. the focus of lurrrve ❤️ ...Soft Focus... No Mate, just cranked 'em to blow the dust of... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGBass Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 2 hours ago, boristhespider7 said: I'm an ABM 500 Evo III owner. Is it worth upgrading to the Evo 4? I appreciate its only 2 extra sliders on the EQ plus some more gain to the valve section. Is it worth it? There isn't a monumental difference between the EVOIII ABM500 and EVO IV models in my experience. Some early EVO IV's around 2017 were still using the green EVOIII main pre-amp board with the newer 9 band tone circuit. Later EVO IV's use the blue Ashdown re-designed pre-amp main board with the 9 band tone circuit. Transformers in both EVOIII and early EVO IV's were more or less the same, large output Xinzi branded, and had a T12A output fuse to protect cabs from excess output. Newish ABM EVO IV's have a new redesigned high quality/very quiet Euro designed transformer and also thermostatically controlled fans that only come on when you put your foot down. New EVO IV's are very quiet in operation and ideal for studio/home use because of this. There is a bit more grit in the later ABM EVO IV mainboard and also as mentioned you have two more sliders to fine tune tones. If your EVO III is working fine with no issues and doing the job, might be worth saving your money for the EVO VI if / when it comes along😁 I'm sure someone at Ashdown will be already drawing up the specs for it! Both EVO 3 and 4 are very capable amps and either can do that ABM sound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0175westwood29 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 anyone know if i test ohms of the 610 ive just got if a speakers blown itll still show 4 ohms im guessing? trying to save pulling all the speakers for a 9v battery test Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 If you have a decent meter then yes, you should be able to tell. The 4 ohm is actually slightly higher than 4 ohm, its actually a little over 5, as it is 3 sets of speakers in parallel giving: 1 / (1 / 8+8 + 1 / 8+8 + 1 / 8+8) = 1 / (3/16) = 5.333 ohms if one speaker has blown that 8+8 bit would be failed, so that would be 8 ohms Although the other way is just play a bass through it and see if only 4 cones move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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