Sonic_Groove Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Is it Me? or is there some confusion going on here between "Playing a Bass Solo" and "Solo Bass"? Bass Solo -- Make the band/artist sound good the Groove is sacred Solo Bass -- Show Your Stuff 2 Quote
ubit Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, peteb said: To be fair, I don't think that is quite what he means... Could it be any clearer? Quote
StickyDBRmf Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Considering our guitarist would announce "Make our ears bleed, Marty!" I was forced to oblige. I have a recording where I swear it sounds like I'm skinning a live cat. Now that's rocknroll. 1 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 Some people like flash stuff, some don’t… end of thread? well, I always look at the band and they say “bass solo?” And I oblige - and it’s crap, first time round - but I refine it and make it a thing… as I said earlier, I sometimes follow vocal melody, I approach everything as it suits. some people really buzz off making the foundation, some people like to show off - some like to add a counterpoint to a song. the guitarist and I have to make all the noise, so I do what I can. I dunno - the best thing about music is that there’s effectively no “right” or “wrong”. Just don’t listen, if you don’t want to. I steal ideas every time I see a solo bass player. im sure I signed off the same earlier in the thread - each to their own. but - on the subject of Richard Bona - this was an awakening for me. Jools Holland… 2 Quote
TimR Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, ubit said: Could it be any clearer? OK. We'll maybe I'll concede, obviously if you've paid loads of money to get into a Richard Bona gig, I would suggest you go to the box office and complain to them and try and get your money back. Quote
TimR Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 Went to see Richard Bona at the jazz cafe mid-week about 10 years ago. Doors opened at 7. We arrived at 8. Usually bands start at 9. He eventually appeared at 10pm. At 10:30 large numbers of people started to leave to catch the last train home, so they could get up in the morning for work. Quote
RhysP Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimR said: Went to see Richard Bona at the jazz cafe mid-week about 10 years ago. Doors opened at 7. We arrived at 8. Usually bands start at 9. He eventually appeared at 10pm. At 10:30 large numbers of people started to leave to catch the last train home, so they could get up in the morning for work. That's a long time to wait to get a bona. 1 4 Quote
TimR Posted November 18, 2021 Author Posted November 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, RhysP said: That's a long time to wait to get a bona. Especially if you're not going to last the full distance. 2 Quote
peteb Posted November 18, 2021 Posted November 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, TimR said: At 10:30 large numbers of people started to leave to catch the last train home, so they could get up in the morning for work. Or was it because he started scat singing over a bass solo? 1 Quote
robscott Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 On 17/11/2021 at 12:48, BigRedX said: Solos are for boring old fashioned bands. Every note I write and subsequently play has been carefully considered and orchestrated ahead of time to to be the best possible note (IMO) to go with what the other musicians are doing at any given moment in the song. The song is the most important thing. Wow! Someone better tell Dizzy Gillespie 1 Quote
Barking Spiders Posted November 19, 2021 Posted November 19, 2021 21 hours ago, TimR said: Went to see Richard Bona at the jazz cafe mid-week about 10 years ago. Doors opened at 7. We arrived at 8. Usually bands start at 9. He eventually appeared at 10pm. At 10:30 large numbers of people started to leave to catch the last train home, so they could get up in the morning for work. You're telling me they managed a full half hour?😲 Quote
toneknob Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Just in case: https://thejazzcafelondon.com/event/richard-bona-3/ https://thejazzcafelondon.com/event/richard-bona-4/ Quote
wateroftyne Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Just Googled him. Presumably this was a performance in a prison, and the audience weren't allowed out of their seats? 2 Quote
RhysP Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Just Googled him. Presumably this was a performance in a prison, and the audience weren't allowed out of their seats? I don't think torturing prisoners is allowed anymore, is it? 1 Quote
fleabag Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Avoid solos all costs. They're as cheesy as a block of cheese in a block of cheese championships 1 Quote
Woodinblack Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, wateroftyne said: Just Googled him. Presumably this was a performance in a prison, and the audience weren't allowed out of their seats? I doubt that you could get that many people at the bar, so they probably had to wait and hope he finished? Quote
Downunderwonder Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 5 hours ago, wateroftyne said: Just Googled him. Presumably this was a performance in a prison, and the audience weren't allowed out of their seats? 2 hours ago, fleabag said: Avoid solos all costs. They're as cheesy as a block of cheese in a block of cheese championships Hand me the crackers! Quote
Elfrasho Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Assuming the drummer keeps going, just lock a groove with the beat. Nae need for big show off pieces. A 16 bar bit of just drums and bass finely connected is a thing of beauty. Maybe not a true solo. But the best option in my opinion! 2 Quote
Newfoundfreedom Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 17:17, wateroftyne said: Just Googled him. Presumably this was a performance in a prison, and the audience weren't allowed out of their seats? That's the same one I posted on the last page, but for some reason when I post a YouTube video on here it will only post a link instead of embedding the video. Quote
TimR Posted November 26, 2021 Author Posted November 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Newfoundfreedom said: That's the same one I posted on the last page, but for some reason when I post a YouTube video on here it will only post a link instead of embedding the video. Try taking out the s of the https maybe you're logged onto YouTube or something. Or just strip it to www.etc 1 Quote
uk_lefty Posted November 26, 2021 Posted November 26, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 21:21, Elfrasho said: Assuming the drummer keeps going, just lock a groove with the beat. Nae need for big show off pieces. A 16 bar bit of just drums and bass finely connected is a thing of beauty. Maybe not a true solo. But the best option in my opinion! My new band has given me a passage for just me and the drummer and though I'd love to do some flash stuff I do exactly this. In that song it creates some suspense and tension that's released by the guitarists and vocals coming back in. Other times I go mental up the dusty end though. Hard not to when given the chance. 2 Quote
borntohang Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 I think a Jazz show is slightly different as you're already prepared for a barrage of unlikely harmonies in every tune (and the trumpet showing that he can play HIGH and LOUD twice a break) and are presumably there because you enjoy that sort of rum thing. In other gig environments I feel it's considered polite to make an announcement and take a short break prior to a potential bass solo so that non-combatants and those of a nervous disposition have chance to clear the field. Quote
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