P j Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Well love him or hate him sting with his side kick dom Miller discuss there latest venture on YouTube talking to Rick Beato : some people often disregard sting as a pompous git , but he really is a modern day genius , his ability to write a 3 minute pop tune is amazing , but even he has come to the conclusion that music has hit the wall , but with his ever evolving talent and his quest to push himself to the next level and constant changing of the guard he has tried to make himself relevant . So for that alone I wish people would give him a break and stop starting sentences multimillionaire sting with personal fortune £300 million ! Yes he’s rich beyond comprehension and why not he’s works hard , yes that’s right hard. so base his success on his ability to do something not just well but to an amazing standard , check out his dedication to evolve to find the next big thing , Rick and dom have witnessed something quite special and I agree with them , sting is a modern day genius . Pj 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Where are they talking to Rick Beato? Is this just a love letter or misposted and should be in the 'bad jokes' thread? No hate for Sting here but let's not pretend he invented sliced bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P j Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Well all I am saying or trying to get across is he’s a talent and is to be celebrated and not to be judged solely by his wealth , as often it’s the primary point to any discussion about sting after all my point is aimed to recognise his bass playing ability and not that he’s got 106 bank accounts ,or sliced bread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P j Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Thx rich for putting this up 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 It's a very good chat. I watched it earlier this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) I've just watched it, some good moments and memories there like the first audition of Dominic Miller and the way it started so badly. I agreed with everything he or Dominic or even Rick say about music and his career. But frankly, Sting is not a genius even if he can create instant catchy tunes that he calls flagships, he doesn't deserve such a title. He's a clever guy for sure, but no genius, and his voice is unique because it has a default in it, which are distorted harmonics : just try to sing like him and you'll understand that he's not high pitched, but that there are distorted harmonics coming and giving that high pitch illusion. He says it himself, everything is already in classical music and especially Bach. Edited November 27, 2021 by Hellzero Wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 He writes some bloody good songs, tho. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: He writes some bloody good songs, tho. Great songs. I love his work and it galls me that he's quite the tool, always has been though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, ezbass said: Great songs. I love his work and it galls me that he's quite the tool, always has been though. I can't agree. He's been a tool on occasion, but haven't we all? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: I can't agree. He's been a tool on occasion, but haven't we all? OK, it's one man's opinion, but having read Andy Summers' book, he's been a self absorbed knob since day one. Perhaps all very successful stars are (and some folk who are regardless of success ) , but they just keep it hidden away? Perhaps Mr Sumner is more honest and genuine in that he lets his knobness shine through? I'd rather he just played his bass, sang and wrote more great songs. For the record, The Police are one of my all time, favourite bands and at least 2/3 of that band were tools. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P j Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Ha ha glad we got past the money thing , yes would agree he has a tendency to be a bit of knob head, well on more the a few occasions , and now here lives but a 1000 yards away from me in Battersea, I should remind him of this should I ever bump into him , only after I’ve shook his hand and hand a quick chat about Roxanne 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky 4000 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 From what I've seen on the TV, Copeland was a bit of a psycho back in the day, and Gordon Sting was probably actually scared of him. And there's no shame in that. Seemed to be what they call an abusive relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P j Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Yes I think stu was a bit of a thug in those days and sting definitely from his looks at times took a beating , but stu eased up when he realises actually he’s pretty good , better not cut off my nose here ! but all in jest I think it’s clear that individually all members of the police had something of a great talent to bring to the table in their own special ways . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroydiamond Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Really liked the Police and he has made some interesting music in his own right. Saw him many years ago touring 'Mercury's Falling' album and on that night he was a load of tosh. Have never listened to him since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) I've no idea what people's personalities are like when they're not on stage. If I took any notice of anyone's political beliefs or personal beliefs I'd probably never go and see anyone play. Plenty of bands and artists I've seen live have had bad nights. It's live music. Edited November 27, 2021 by TimR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroydiamond Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, TimR said: Plenty of bands and artists I've seen live have had bad nights. It's live music. For sure and Stings performance on that night was by far the worst performance by a major act I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, leroydiamond said: For sure and Stings performance on that night was by far the worst performance by a major act I have ever seen. You can see why some artists seem to cancel at the drop of a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroydiamond Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, TimR said: You can see why some artists seem to cancel at the drop of a hat. Wishe he had that night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I like the first four Police albums which definitely show Gordon has an ear for melody and a knack for writing memorable songs. But I don't care for his solo material esp his jazz tinged stuff, though that's to be expected considering his jazz roots. I also support his environmentalism rather than knock him for it which I've never understood why many do. But genius? No and nor were/are any other rock and pop musicians IMO and that includes Bowie and I'm still on the fence about Prince. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merello Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Watched this when it came out. Tremendous viewing. Is he a genius? Dunno, but his application of other musical perspectives to pop is damned close to genius. Examples, in my opinion? Why should I cry for you? Every breath you take Much of Ten Summoners Tales. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, merello said: Is he a genius? Genius, along with iconic, is a word that is used far too freely. The Police were a superb band, definitely one of the most influential bands of their time. Loved his earlier solo stuff but lost interest after 10 Summoners Tales. Seen him live quite a few times too & he was always never less than excellent. Incredibly talented undoubtably. Genius? Probably not. I haven't watched the interview thing as I can't stand Rick Beato, he's the worst kind of shouting-at-clouds old fart muso IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I take it Rick doesn't ask Sting why his new album was so badly mastered with over-compression and clipping in places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Hey, that Dominic Miller isn't 'Dom from Dorset' is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I thought the thread title was referencing Dm and wondered why it wasn't Dm6. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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