Kev Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 53 minutes ago, ern500evo said: Has anyone been tempted enough to actually pull the trigger yet? If I still used pedals I may well have, I built my last board around the Adam, and an Adam with AO tones sounds superb. For many it could be the only device they need for live use, studio use and home practice, particularly if you go ampless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Kev said: If I still used pedals I may well have, I built my last board around the Adam, and an Adam with AO tones sounds superb. For many it could be the only device they need for live use, studio use and home practice, particularly if you go ampless. It certainly looks super versatile. It’s way overkill for what I’d need, but I do love the options it gives. I was leaning towards a B7K ultra in the new year, but for not a massive amount more, this seems like such a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, ern500evo said: It certainly looks super versatile. It’s way overkill for what I’d need, but I do love the options it gives. I was leaning towards a B7K ultra in the new year, but for not a massive amount more, this seems like such a good option. I would say that the B7K and AO drive circuits are quite different. All Darkglass of course, but generally the AO is thicker and fuzzier than the B7K. Less metallic clank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 AO is their best circuit imo. More versatile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Kev said: I would say that the B7K and AO drive circuits are quite different. All Darkglass of course, but generally the AO is thicker and fuzzier than the B7K. Less metallic clank. The more video reviews and demos I watch of the AO, the more I like it. Definitely seem to prefer it more biased to the alpha side though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 7 hours ago, ern500evo said: The more video reviews and demos I watch of the AO, the more I like it. Definitely seem to prefer it more biased to the alpha side though I had the original AO pedal and I definitely preferred the Alpha side - it was more defined whereas the Omega was kind of uncontrolled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 hours ago, ern500evo said: Has anyone been tempted enough to actually pull the trigger yet? No. I'd like one (I miss my original AO) but at the moment I play live in a Big Band only and for home playing and recording / writing I do everything with Helix or a selection of plugins. I only have 1 bass specific preamp pedal these days - the Tech21 Steve Harris model. That is the most versatile preamp pedal I've ever known and will do McCartney through to Lemmy. I suspect if I got the Photon it would be great fun at home for a while, then I'd start not bothering to plug it in and just going direct into my PC again... and then I'd look at it and think "there's £400 I'm not using, what else could I have if I sold it..." and that would be it. I'd love it if Neural did an AO plugin though. The Parallax gets very close but it's not quite the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 hours ago, fretmeister said: No. I'd like one (I miss my original AO) but at the moment I play live in a Big Band only and for home playing and recording / writing I do everything with Helix or a selection of plugins. I only have 1 bass specific preamp pedal these days - the Tech21 Steve Harris model. That is the most versatile preamp pedal I've ever known and will do McCartney through to Lemmy. I suspect if I got the Photon it would be great fun at home for a while, then I'd start not bothering to plug it in and just going direct into my PC again... and then I'd look at it and think "there's £400 I'm not using, what else could I have if I sold it..." and that would be it. I'd love it if Neural did an AO plugin though. The Parallax gets very close but it's not quite the same. I think an AO ultra would be more than adequate for my needs. I use backline more than in house PA, so I’ve always got my EBS TD650 and Barefaced Big Twin 2 behind me. There just doesn’t seem to be a huge difference in price for what appears to be a lot more pedal. Would be nice to set up three presets for various levels of drive/tone. I only use flat out distortion on a few songs, the rest is more of a subtle drive. I found a sound clip of the AO ultra with a hump in the mids, the drive only on about 10 o clock, blend about midday, and the mod all the way to the alpha side, and it just sounded so good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Demo by Nate Navarro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) On 01/12/2021 at 16:02, Kev said: Yeah, I hate it when stuff sounds sterile and lifeless. There, fixed it for you. Edited December 11, 2021 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) On 01/12/2021 at 16:00, Supernaut said: Very much so. It's either that or the old stand by - a P with SS strings through a cranked SVT. Well, unlike Dungwall/Fartgas, a P with SS through a tube amp actually sounds classic and great, rather than like a sterile lifeless wet fart of a cliché that induces puke reflexes. Edited December 11, 2021 by Baloney Balderdash 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Well unlike Dungwall/Fartgas, a P with SS through a tube amp actually sounds classic and great, rather than like a sterile lifeless wet fart of a cliché that induces puke reflexes. Nice of you to drop in. I take it your Photon is on its way to you then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Watched it a few times now, Nate Navarro is a beast of a player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Well unlike Dungwall/Fartgas, a P with SS through a tube amp actually sounds classic and great, rather than like a sterile lifeless wet fart of a cliché that induces puke reflexes. I’d love to hear some of your tones! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Well, unlike Dungwall/Fartgas, a P with SS through a tube amp actually sounds classic and great, rather than like a sterile lifeless wet fart of a cliché that induces puke reflexes. I’m getting the inpression that you’re not fond of Darkglass products. I might be wrong though, it wouldn’t be the first time. Just a hunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 04:34, Baloney Balderdash said: Well, unlike Dungwall/Fartgas, a P with SS through a tube amp actually sounds classic and great, rather than like a sterile lifeless wet fart of a cliché that induces puke reflexes. Siri, tell the world I like pineapple on pizza without saying I'm a deviant with questionable taste. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Great demo. He's a heck of a player isn't he? Looks like a pretty good pedal too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think that this kind of makes the point I said a few years ago. If you could get an AO with saveable midi presets, wouldn't that be worth £500? Now, I actually like the AO, but I don't really use mine as it's mainly for clients at my studio. Frankly, if this was something that I'd use, I'd be getting one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yan_Huriey Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I love my AOU, I would like to see if the compression is any good, my multicomp is ace, so its going to have to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 So, did any of you guys actually get a Photon yet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 There’s one on FB marketplace for £390 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Great demo by Amos Heller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Amos is such a good player and his demo's are far and beyond the best DG demo's on YT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ern500evo Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, krispn said: Amos is such a good player and his demo's are far and beyond the best DG demo's on YT. Agreed. I do love watching his demos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, ern500evo said: Agreed. I do love watching his demos They verge on demo/how to. If i owned a product company I'd be sending this cat all my gear to review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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