Shims just say no!

[Woodinblack]

10 minutes ago, Bridgehouse said:

Did you have a CITES certificate for those shims??

 

Oh didn't need it, I just chipped a bit of the leg of this old Thomas Chippendale sideboard that was kicking around. 

[Bridgehouse]

Just now, Woodinblack said:

 

Oh didn't need it, I just chipped a bit of the leg of this old Thomas Chippendale sideboard that was kicking around. 

Chipped a chippendale to crack cites certificate conundrum?

[Downunderwonder]

Edit turned into double post. Shagging forum upgrades.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Downunderwonder

[Downunderwonder]

Just now, Downunderwonder said:

With a wedge shaped shim that effect gets magnified very much, but even a flat shim increases the break angle at the bridge when the bridge is raised.

 

People go for that effect by just shimming the heel end. Bad idea. It's a recipe for 'ski jump' syndrome.

 

[nilebodgers]

Over at the other bass forum there is an old thread where a bunch of luthiers are attempting to prove or disprove the “shims cause ski-slopes” thesis with a bunch of long-running experiments. As far as I remember, they haven’t managed to cause one yet with shimming.

[Baloney Balderdash]

The only effective way to fight the unending tyranny of shims is to just consequently say no to play bass as long as shims are used in some of them!

Edited December 6, 2021 by Baloney Balderdash

[Stub Mandrel]

12 hours ago, Bunion said:

Alas then they would be plastic which would not do, no sir, Would not do at all!!

 

But I'd use filament made with real tonewood:

 

[robscott]

On 04/12/2021 at 21:21, Bunion said:

He’s talking about the saddles not the nut 

Darn it, why didn't I spot that? Thank you

 

I must remember to read posts properly

I must remember to read posts properly

I must remember to read posts properly

I must remember..........

[dave_bass5]

Ive shimmed every bass ive owned in the past 20 years I prefer the strings running parallel to the neck over the whole length. Its not so much a set up issue as a visual issue, although it does help at the higher end. 

No one can convince me not to do this. 

[Downunderwonder]

37 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

Ive shimmed every bass ive owned in the past 20 years I prefer the strings running parallel to the neck over the whole length. Its not so much a set up issue as a visual issue, although it does help at the higher end. 

No one can convince me not to do this. 

Parallel, wedge, or partial?

[dave_bass5]

19 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said:

Parallel, wedge, or partial?

Just a bit of card in the body end of the neck pocket. Brings the strings at the body end of the neck closer to the fretboard. 

[Velarian]

4 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

Just a bit of card in the body end of the neck pocket. Brings the strings at the body end of the neck closer to the fretboard. 

Repeated from earlier in the thread:
https://hazeguitars.com/blog/the-perils-of-bad-neck-shims

 

and also this:

https://hazeguitars.com/blog/neck-shimming-and-ski-jumps-the-latest-research

Edited December 14, 2021 by Velarian

[dave_bass5]

Whatever I’m doing is fine. Lots of opinions and experiences, mine are mine and I’m happy with them. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by dave_bass5