paul_5 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) I came across this article earlier; not content with decimating the income of recording artists, Spotify seems poised to start funding military AI research. https://mixmag.net/amp/spotify-daniel-ek-ai-defence-investment-criticism Edited December 9, 2021 by paul_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 cant see the article, link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 That, dearheart, is because I forgot to add it. forgive me forgive me forgive me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) The thread title is innacurate. The man who founded and runs Spotify is investing his own funds into a company that provides, among other things, services to miltary customers. Spotify the company has nothing to do with this. Good luck when their lawyers catch up with you. Edited December 9, 2021 by Bassfinger Distracted by a sighting of Elvis 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bassfinger said: Good luck when their lawyers catch up with you. You really think that's a possibility? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bassfinger said: The thread title is innacurate. The man who founded and runs Spotify is investing his own funds into a company that provides, among other things, services to miltary customers. Spotify the company has nothing to do with this. Good luck when their lawyers catch up with you. Where did ‘his’ money come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, ambient said: Where did ‘his’ money come from? Presumably your company pay you a wage. Are they responsible for the tunes you play at gigs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 This is from the lazy end of tabloid journalism. And that’s a compliment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 What’s wrong with investing in military AI research? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: You really think that's a possibility? Oh yeah, for sure. Not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bassfinger said: Oh yeah, for sure. Not. Me neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Have to say, I like the guy even less now... if that's at all possible. *Apparently he's not a fan of me either, so we're all-square 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDaveTheBass Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bassfinger said: Good luck when their lawyers catch up with you. Good luck when their autonomous napalm-wielding AI military lawyers catch up with you more like! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, ped said: What’s wrong with investing in military AI research? You never saw Terminator? But seriously, I don't know anyone that wants autonomous weapons flying/running/crawlingaround shooting at whatever they 'feel' like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Shooting greedy musicians who want to be paid a little more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: You never saw Terminator? But seriously, I don't know anyone that wants autonomous weapons flying/running/crawlingaround shooting at whatever they 'feel' like. I think there’s more to it than that - and I’m sure we’ll all benefit from the trickle down to consumer goods. I’m all for it! Smarter more efficient weapons and targeting sounds like the way forward if you ask me 👍🏼 A 3000lb bomb that keeps telling you to listen to that band you hate until it takes your face off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Don’t want to invest in military weapons? So no DSLR cameras, microwave ovens, cellphones, GPS (and satellite navigation), drones, the epi pen, duct tape and superglue, jet engines, portable radio, internet, night vision, blah blah… Investing in the the military and weapons is what has pushed technology into the commercial sector - some of these technologies would arguably have never come to exist without such investments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: Don’t want to invest in military weapons? So no DSLR cameras, microwave ovens, cellphones, GPS (and satellite navigation), drones, the epi pen, duct tape and superglue, jet engines, portable radio, internet, night vision, blah blah… Investing in the the military and weapons is what has pushed technology into the commercial sector - some of these technologies would arguably have never come to exist without such investments. None of those things go bang. At the end of the day AI for military means killer robots. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimR Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: None of those things go bang. At the end of the day AI for military means killer robots. It means quicker recognition of targets and threats and less human soldiers in the line of fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_lefty Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Most pension funds probably are too. And deforestation, intensive farming, all sorts of unethical stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: None of those things go bang. At the end of the day AI for military means killer robots. Pretty much every advance in technology has been driven by investment in military research and the adult entertainment industry. Sex and violence have got us to the point we are today. Make of that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Downunderwonder said: None of those things go bang. At the end of the day AI for military means killer robots. They may not go bang, but they guide the thing that go bang, they enable detection of the things that you want to bang up with the thing that goes bang, they enable things to go bang without taking out your own people etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, tegs07 said: Pretty much every advance in technology has been driven by investment in military research and the adult entertainment industry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: They may not go bang, but they guide the thing that go bang, they enable detection of the things that you want to bang up with the thing that goes bang, they enable things to go bang without taking out your own people etc etc Tinder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, ped said: Tinder Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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