Secondhand 3Leaf Audio Pedals

[bassist_lewis]

  On 17/03/2022 at 00:47, Quatschmacher said:

There’s an Octabvre III here but note, it looks like it’s the one that sold on a Facebook group on Thursday for £220 with the recipient trying to flip it for £500!

 

https://reverb.com/uk/item/52045457-3leaf-audio-octavbre-mkiii-2020

 

@Onox, @danweb22, @SumOne, @iamtheelvy, @Owno

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Listing ended 😐

[Quatschmacher]

  On 17/03/2022 at 23:37, bassist_lewis said:

Listing ended 😐

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Wonder if someone bought it or if the seller rethought his strategy. 

[SumOne]

  On 17/03/2022 at 23:46, Quatschmacher said:

Wonder if someone bought it or if the seller rethought his strategy. 

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Or the Damien Hurst school of economics - buy your own stuff for inflated prices to set a benchmark inflated value. 

[Quatschmacher]

  On 18/03/2022 at 14:56, SumOne said:

Or the Damien Hurst school of economics - buy your own stuff for inflated prices to set a benchmark inflated value. 

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I could test your theory out by listing mine for £500 and seeing what happens. 

[SumOne]

  On 18/03/2022 at 15:09, Quatschmacher said:

I could test your theory out by listing mine for £500 and seeing what happens. 

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Worth a try!

 

I guess the flaw in buying your own things from ebay or Reverb to inflate the prices is that you'd need to pay seller fees. 

 

 

[Quatschmacher]

  On 18/03/2022 at 15:34, SumOne said:

 

Worth a try!

 

I guess the flaw in buying your own things from ebay or Reverb to inflate the prices is that you'd need to pay seller fees. 

 

 

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Transactions can be undone though. 

[admiralchew]

For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation.

[Bunion]

  On 07/04/2022 at 10:43, admiralchew said:

For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation.

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There’s one for sale at Bass Bros Too along with an Octabvre 

[admiralchew]

  On 07/04/2022 at 10:43, admiralchew said:

For those interested, there’s a Doom 2 on Reverb. UK based. No affiliation.

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And gone! I’m not surprised. I never see them. Especially not with all of the letters. Mine has the awkward “We come to your Doom” lettering now.

[Quatschmacher]

  On 07/04/2022 at 11:10, Bunion said:

There’s one for sale at Bass Bros Too along with an Octabvre 

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That’s the same seller as the reverb listing. 

[Bunion]

  On 07/04/2022 at 11:49, Quatschmacher said:

That’s the same seller as the reverb listing. 

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Ahh ok, I don’t often go on reverb, I happened to notice them on bass Bros though 

[admiralchew]

  On 07/04/2022 at 11:57, Bunion said:

Ahh ok, I don’t often go on reverb, I happened to notice them on bass Bros though 

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That’s great; I somehow didn’t know about Bass Bros so thanks!

[Bunion]

Always worth looking on Bass Bros site if he’s advertising on reverb it’s often cheaper due to lack of fees 

[Bunion]

  On 07/04/2022 at 11:58, admiralchew said:

That’s great; I somehow didn’t know about Bass Bros so thanks!

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Will the guy that I’ve dealt with is a lovely guy, great bass player and always ready to help any way he can. 

[admiralchew]

Not exactly on topic but, if high-quality boutique north-western US pedals are your thing, Iron Ether is taking pre-orders for the Xerograph Deluxe. Apologies to the mods if this is not the appropriate place and contravenes a rule.

[Kev]

Over $300 now and a 4 month wait, 100% payment up front?  It's an odd shift in what has been a rather odd business model the company has had in recent years.

[admiralchew]

I think that’s just a sign of how difficult it is for the boutique guys. It’s a similar thing to 3Leaf and Sushibox too. I don’t mind if it means they keep making pedals but I know it won’t suit everyone.

[paulo m]

Hello... Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had the opportunity to buy a "Iron Either Xerograph Deluxe" & it had the latest design..... For myself it was more a  Synth  Based Pedal than an Envelope Follower' even tho it does both Very very well..  I stayed with my GR2. 

Question.. "Just which of Spencer Doren's 3 Leaf Pedals  are considered to be the most Coverted..????

[bassist_lewis]

  On 17/04/2022 at 00:35, admiralchew said:

Not exactly on topic but, if high-quality boutique north-western US pedals are your thing, Iron Ether is taking pre-orders for the Xerograph Deluxe. Apologies to the mods if this is not the appropriate place and contravenes a rule.

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I'm guessing they've all been sold already coz I can't find an option to buy one 😔

[Kev]

Yeah it's gone now.

 

Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take.  Yet people are clearly taking it...

[Al Krow]

  On 17/04/2022 at 10:37, Kev said:

Yeah it's gone now.

 

Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take.  Yet people are clearly taking it...

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Just pay by PayPal. Full refund if seller doesn't deliver. Job done and risk largely disappears.

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Al Krow

[bassist_lewis]

  On 17/04/2022 at 10:37, Kev said:

Yeah it's gone now.

 

Much as these guys need support, given how many pedal builders are just disappearing right now, paying up front for a pedal with a 4 month lead is a hell of a risk to take.  Yet people are clearly taking it...

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From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board.

[ped]

  On 17/04/2022 at 10:52, bassist_lewis said:

From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board.

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They’re simply asking the buyers to fund the upfront costs because for some reason they have a cash flow problem. Once the parts are bought and the pedals are made they’ll sell alright. Pretty standard practice but I’m surprised an established builder needs to do that, although maybe it goes to show just how small the operation is. 

[Kev]

  On 17/04/2022 at 10:45, Al Krow said:

Just pay by PayPal. Full refund if seller doesn't deliver. Job done and risk largely disappears.

 

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After 4 months?  I thought the money back guarantee was shorter than that to be honest?

 

Even so, I don't understand why they need 4 months.  No cash flow issue as they have it all from the preorder sales, unless the cash is paying for something else... And thats the worry.

[Kev]

  On 17/04/2022 at 10:52, bassist_lewis said:

From the builder's perspective, they're taking a big risk to buy parts and spend time building without any certainty that they're going to sell. My understanding is that independent builders are working on pretty low profit margins, despite the price per unit, and from what I've heard/read that's the case across the board.

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If you've followed Iron Ether over the past two years, any stock builds he puts up disappear. Instantly.  Even this preorder was gone in hours.  I can't see worrying about sales is the issue.  If he can't afford to buy parts in for a few pedals, it's a bit concerning isn't it? 🤷‍♂️