Daz39 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Clicky bit Oooh want. Basically (I think) the YYZ pedal with added Boost and shapeshifter functions. Obvs will cost a fortune. Edited December 22, 2021 by Daz39 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsat34 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Mee tooo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 hours ago, Daz39 said: Clicky bit Oooh want. Basically (I think) the YYZ pedal with added Boost and shapeshifter functions. Obvs will cost a fortune. Yeah... My money's on it being North of 300quid... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Bigwan said: Yeah... My money's on it being North of 300quid... Aren't most new pedals these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 What happened to the original Tech 21 VT Bass pedal (the non DI version)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, krispn said: Aren't most new pedals these days! Well not to open a can of worms again, but accepting that sort of price as "normal" is screwing the collective! As an example the YYZ is £215 at guitarguitar here in the UK today... Yet at prymax (USA) it's $155 at the minute. That's £116... Somebody's lining their pockets nicely!!! Personally I'd never even consider buying a Tech21 product new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bigwan said: Well not to open a can of worms again, but accepting that sort of price as "normal" is screwing the collective! As an example the YYZ is £215 at guitarguitar here in the UK today... Yet at prymax (USA) it's $155 at the minute. That's £116... Somebody's lining their pockets nicely!!! Personally I'd never even consider buying a Tech21 product new. £116 (no taxes on US list price) less prymax cut, plus shipping plus import duty plus distributor cut plus VAT. (I know I know, we do this every time.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Daz39 said: £116 (no taxes on US list price) less prymax cut, plus shipping plus import duty plus distributor cut plus VAT. (I know I know, we do this every time.) Yes, but I wonder how close that gets to the UK price? Just checked the price of the dug pedal too. The prymax price is the same as I paid for my used one recently. Boils my pi55... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bigwan said: Yes, but I wonder how close that gets to the UK price? Just checked the price of the dug pedal too. The prymax price is the same as I paid for my used one recently. Boils my pi55... I dunno - I wonder how much European items cost in the US when you factor in the costs the other way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Daz39 said: I dunno - I wonder how much European items cost in the US when you factor in the costs the other way? Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon is $519/£388 at prymax, £479 in UK... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bigwan said: Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon is $519/£388 at prymax, £479 in UK... £479 less VAT is £399. The difference will be the variables in shipping and import duty and distributor cuts. I suppose the true test of a rip-off is to find a UK-made pedal and compare what we pay here with no import/shipping costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Before the pandemic, I used to visit the US once a year. Always a great time to stock up on strings and pedals. DR strings are $20 compared to £35/40 here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Bigwan said: Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon is $519/£388 at prymax, £479 in UK... Pretty much spot on really, remembering that US prices don't include tax. Its US built pedals that we do really badly from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I don't think I've ever played a bad tech 21 product but I've already lost interest in this because of the price, even though we don't know the price yet. Crazy. I've often wondered what would happen if someone like Darkglass sold their pedals for £100 or so. Would the loss per item be offset by the increase in sales? No need to buy a clone... I just can't see a box with some capacitors in it as a luxury product. It's not like a watch or a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jack said: I don't think I've ever played a bad tech 21 product but I've already lost interest in this because of the price, even though we don't know the price yet. Crazy. I've often wondered what would happen if someone like Darkglass sold their pedals for £100 or so. Would the loss per item be offset by the increase in sales? No need to buy a clone... I just can't see a box with some capacitors in it as a luxury product. It's not like a watch or a car. I agree - exclusivity and branding does mad things to a purchasing brain. I am somewhat of a fan - I bought my first bass after hearing the Hold Your Fire album in 1995, I have Geddy's BBBoB, all of Neil's books, all of the music, some DVDs, some t-shirts (crikey, fanboy alert). So I am sorely tempted. I was tempted by the YYZ but couldn't justify the cost. But this has an extra footswitch and button!! C'mon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 No XLR out seems an oversight, again. Also, “6dB of Schmegilka,” . To be clear, I’m a huge Tech21 fan, have been since my first Trademark 60 guitar combo and have a VTDI on my board, but… hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, ezbass said: No XLR out seems an oversight, again. Also, “6dB of Schmegilka,” . To be clear, I’m a huge Tech21 fan, have been since my first Trademark 60 guitar combo and have a VTDI on my board, but… hmm. To this day, no one has explained the Hazarai function on EHX delay pedals to me, so I dunno - it's a button, it does something. I've seen lots of arguments about the need for XLR outs, or cheating with an adaptor/cable. Dunno - surely it wouldn't cost much or take too much space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack said: I don't think I've ever played a bad tech 21 product but I've already lost interest in this because of the price, even though we don't know the price yet. Crazy. I've often wondered what would happen if someone like Darkglass sold their pedals for £100 or so. Would the loss per item be offset by the increase in sales? No need to buy a clone... I just can't see a box with some capacitors in it as a luxury product. It's not like a watch or a car. Sadly we don't, and never will, live in a world where things don't cost more when they're from a presitge brand/made in the west/handmade e.t.c. But how cheap do you think they can be? Some Darkglass pedals sell for under £200, some for almost £500. Do you want them all to be £100? I don't actually think sales would be as different as you think, and certainly not enough to offset losses at that difference. I mean there are several on this forum who would pay £3k or £4k on a Sadowsky that looks and sounds practically the same as an instrument costs £120 from Thomann... Edited December 23, 2021 by Kev 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kev said: Sadly we don't, and never will, live in a world where things don't cost more when they're from a presitge brand/made in the west/handmade e.t.c. But how cheap do you think they can be? Some Darkglass pedals sell for under £200, some for almost £500. Do you want them all to be £100? I don't actually think sales would be as different as you think, and certainly not enough to offset losses at that difference. I mean there are several on this forum who would pay £3k or £4k on a Sadowsky that looks and sounds practically the same as an instrument costs £120 from Thomann... But they don't though, do they? I'd argue there's a meaningful and appreciable difference between the two basses that even a layman could tell. Probably not so with the pedals. I have actually handed my wife both my Squier and Fender and asked her which was nicer, but I think she spotted the logo and everyone on the planet knows what a Fender is. Perhaps I should try with my MXR Sugar Drive and Tone City Bad Horse. Obviously Darkglass have done the math and set their price point accordingly, it seems to be working just fine. Meh, what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jack said: I don't think I've ever played a bad tech 21 product but I've already lost interest in this because of the price, even though we don't know the price yet. Crazy. I've often wondered what would happen if someone like Darkglass sold their pedals for £100 or so. Would the loss per item be offset by the increase in sales? No need to buy a clone... I just can't see a box with some capacitors in it as a luxury product. It's not like a watch or a car. Could a small company like Darkglass actually be able to sell them for £100? It's not like they are Boss who have now sold nearly 20 million pedals! DG don't have access to those economies of scale. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech21NYC Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Supernaut said: What happened to the original Tech 21 VT Bass pedal (the non DI version)? The VT Bass DI replaced the original character series VT Bass pedal. Pricing outside the US is affected by the various taxes, distribution, and shipping of course. The British made Revivaldrive Custom sells for £449 (VAT included) at Andertons . The same pedal sells for $675 at Prymaxe. Once you include the sales tax it retails for $719 (£536) here in NJ. There is no easy answer. The more hands that a product passes through combined with the escalating cost of shipping and value added taxes means higher prices. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 How did Geddy record Moving Pictures without this pedal? 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, ped said: How did Geddy record Moving Pictures without this pedal? 😄 Well, that's why he did the Time Machine live tour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ped said: How did Geddy record Moving Pictures without this pedal? 😄 Because he already had ample quantities of Schmegilka to hand (mere mortals can only handle 6dB of Schmegilka). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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