Sarah5string Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Thought I'd ask you guys and see what gems you've spotted in sheet music.... for example, my personal favourites... What do you guys have? 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I understand the words better than those strange cryptic symbols lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sarah5string said: Thought I'd ask you guys and see what gems you've spotted in sheet music.... for example, my personal favourites... What do you guys have? I know of a couple of Conductors/MD's who would 'literally go fuc*%ng nuts' with the arranger or, engraving company, if presented with that last bar in a score they were working with... Edited December 31, 2021 by lowdown 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Sorry, double post. Edited December 31, 2021 by lowdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfacefour Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 From the Twitter account Threatening music notation, some great ones on there https://twitter.com/notation_wut?t=F0IeJrzzQ2gpEhlVClRiaQ&s=09 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigface Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Well, there are a few in this one ... 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicbassman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, pigface said: Well, there are a few in this one ... That's wonderful! I especially like 'remove cattle from stage' and 'release the penguins' 😄 Source ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigface Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, musicbassman said: That's wonderful! I especially like 'remove cattle from stage' and 'release the penguins' 😄 Source ??? Yes, there are some goodies there. 'light explosives now.....and.....now'. I can't remember where I got it but a search for 'faeries death waltz' will reveal all. Amazingly, there is at least one live performance (sort of) of this on YouTube 🙂 Edited January 5, 2022 by pigface Clarify. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 31/12/2021 at 21:05, lowdown said: I know of a couple of Conductors/MD's who would 'literally go fuc*%ng nuts' with the arranger or, engraving company, if presented with that last bar in a score they were working with... I just sang that back to myself!! 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 14 hours ago, pigface said: Yes, there are some goodies there. 'light explosives now.....and.....now'. I can't remember where I got it but a search for 'faeries death waltz' will reveal all. Amazingly, there is at least one live performance (sort of) of this on YouTube 🙂 With the wildlife and explosives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 20 hours ago, pigface said: Well, there are a few in this one ... This is an Everything Pizza, shaken not stirred! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 @lowdown for someone with only rudimentary knowledge of musical notation can you explain why that bar is a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikNik Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, BigRedX said: @lowdown for someone with only rudimentary knowledge of musical notation can you explain why that bar is a problem? Can't see it being a problem but I personally found it hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BigRedX said: @lowdown for someone with only rudimentary knowledge of musical notation can you explain why that bar is a problem? "To Beam or not to Beam". It's not a problem as such, but a basic rule of thumb for clear and concise sight reading. You shouldn't really 'Beam' across a beat (or a bar line) when arranging or copying. When notes are not beamed across a beat, you can instantly recognise the beats in the bar. Regarding Bar lines. If you place a beam across a bar line. You could lose the emphasis of the meter (time signature). The bar in question, (or beat and a half on show that is) should read as below: (I have filled out the rest of the bar as a guess) Edited January 6, 2022 by lowdown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 @lowdown Thanks that makes sense. However for a score that contains the instruction "literally go flipping nuts" I doubt many people would be sight reading it and the notation is there to help the players track where they are in a piece when they play it from memory, rather than to read from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah5string Posted January 7, 2022 Author Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 06/01/2022 at 14:34, BigRedX said: @lowdown Thanks that makes sense. However for a score that contains the instruction "literally go flipping nuts" I doubt many people would be sight reading it and the notation is there to help the players track where they are in a piece when they play it from memory, rather than to read from scratch. You can almost guarantee there would be an MD somewhere who insisted on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_m Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Erm... 🤔 h/t: Threatening Music Notation on Twitter https://twitter.com/ThreatNotation/status/1480529990064218116 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, tony_m said: Erm... 🤔 h/t: Threatening Music Notation on Twitter https://twitter.com/ThreatNotation/status/1480529990064218116 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I've tried learning to read music and have come to the conclusion that it's weird, confusing and stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) On 06/01/2022 at 14:34, BigRedX said: @lowdown Thanks that makes sense. However for a score that contains the instruction "literally go flipping nuts" I doubt many people would be sight reading it and the notation is there to help the players track where they are in a piece when they play it from memory, rather than to read from scratch. Very little of the "classical" ensemble oeuvre is played from memory. When I say very little, I mean that I have literally never seen it. The nature of things is that there will be maybe 3 full rehearsals of 3 hours each (max, and that is a massive luxury) and then it is concert o'clock. There is simply no time to learn stuff like that. Pro players have fearsome sight reading skills. It is part of their training. Edited January 10, 2022 by Owen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: I've tried learning to read music and have come to the conclusion that it's weird, confusing and stupid. Same here. If only there was some system that just told us what fret/string to press down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Nail Soup said: Same here. If only there was some system that just told us what fret/string to press down. I get confused by the sharp/flat thing. Is it a B flat or an A sharp? No one really knows but you can guarantee whatever you call it is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 06/01/2022 at 13:48, lowdown said: "To Beam or not to Beam". It's not a problem as such, but a basic rule of thumb for clear and concise sight reading. You shouldn't really 'Beam' across a beat (or a bar line) when arranging or copying. When notes are not beamed across a beat, you can instantly recognise the beats in the bar. Regarding Bar lines. If you place a beam across a bar line. You could lose the emphasis of the meter (time signature). The bar in question, (or beat and a half on show that is) should read as below: (I have filled out the rest of the bar as a guess) There are worse sins e.g. a dotted crotchet across the middle of a 4/4 bar, a minim starting on the second quaver of a beat - very difficult to process on the fly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, SteveXFR said: I get confused by the sharp/flat thing. Is it a B flat or an A sharp? No one really knows but you can guarantee whatever you call it is wrong. You could think about it as keeping the alphabet pure. You need to go letter by letter. If the note before it in the scale is an A then it would be a Bb. If the note before it was a G# then it would be an A#. If the note above it was a C then it would be a Bb. Reading a G# going to a Bb alphabet wise would suggest some kind of 3rd if you think about it on linear alphabet from. But we know it could not be any sort of 3rd cos there is only a tone between them. So the notes are named and notated in context with what is around them. It is a notation thing really. Notation is the least bad way we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 14 hours ago, Owen said: Very little of the "classical" ensemble oeuvre is played from memory. When I say very little, I mean that I have literally never seen it. The nature of things is that there will be maybe 3 full rehearsals of 3 hours each (max, and that is a massive luxury) and then it is concert o'clock. There is simply no time to learn stuff like that. Pro players have fearsome sight reading skills. It is part of their training. Do you know what piece this fragment of notation is actually from? I doubt it is from anything serious of the sort described above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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