bubinga5 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: Music aside, they should have spent a bit more on the video. I think they should pay the flipper more for dancing for that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If there was a stark binary division between tory voters / the rest of the population, wouldn't the results at elections be a bit more stable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said: If there was a stark binary division between tory voters / the rest of the population, wouldn't the results at elections be a bit more stable? They are stable. Tories always win, even when Labour won they were pretty much tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 I remember when the band suede had the 2 guys kissing on the album cover raised a few eyebrows was that also shown in the music video I can't remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 So the variations in how individual seats vote is just the 14 million tory voters moving house a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 Nooooooooooooooooooooo not politics guys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Thunderbird said: Think we should all get back on topic as it would be a shame to get the thread locked I can't really think of anything else offensive music wise apart from the silly Roy chubby brown songs and comedy music like that I used to love Chubby Brown when I was a kid (my mum used to practically wet herself at that funny little dance he does). But I remember seeing a documentary about him years ago and being really disappointed that his “views” didn’t stay on the stage. He actually reminded me of my dad… I had a similar thing with the Macc Lads. I saw a couple of their more recent gigs on YouTube and Mutley came across just as bigoted as their music suggests. Without the “excuse” of youth, it seemed really sad, unfortunately. Mind you, I’ve been listening to them for 34 years and don’t want to stop. I might not be an actual bigot (I hope) but I am a hypocrite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Thunderbird said: I don't really understand all the binary and non binary stuff and to be honest I don't care All I care about is if people are happy and not hurting others it's all good And if someone regardless of sexuality or colour is nice to me I'll reciprocate as I really don't care about the colour of the skin or the sexual orientation As my mum used to say there's good and bad in all Are your parents Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, KingBollock said: I had a similar thing with the Macc Lads. I saw a couple of their more recent gigs on YouTube and Mutley came across just as bigoted as their music suggests. Without the “excuse” of youth, it seemed really sad, unfortunately. Mind you, I’ve been listening to them for 34 years and don’t want to stop. I might not be an actual bigot (I hope) but I am a hypocrite. It’s all part of the act/parody of the stereotypical northern hard-man/lad image of the 80s, luckily he and the band are nothing like that off stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, KingBollock said: I used to love Chubby Brown when I was a kid (my mum used to practically wet herself at that funny little dance he does). But I remember seeing a documentary about him years ago and being really disappointed that his “views” didn’t stay on the stage. He actually reminded me of my dad… I had a similar thing with the Macc Lads. I saw a couple of their more recent gigs on YouTube and Mutley came across just as bigoted as their music suggests. Without the “excuse” of youth, it seemed really sad, unfortunately. Mind you, I’ve been listening to them for 34 years and don’t want to stop. I might not be an actual bigot (I hope) but I am a hypocrite. Welcome back KB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnPatroller Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Vin Venal said: I'm non-binary, and I definitely exist. I suppose you can either find a way to fit that into your own belief system about gender, or you can choose not to, and operate on the assumption instead that I don't exist, which at least you wouldn't be alone in. You might find yourself on the same side of the argument as a bunch of people you wouldn't want to rub shoulders with. Also might be worth keeping in mind the argument is entirely about stuff which doesn't concern you, so if you go out of your way to go around telling people like me we don't exist, you're the one going out on a limb so to speak. Another thing to keep in mind, and of course this doesn't apply to most, but being binary trans is real flipping hard, and long. Like the waiting list just to get an appointment to start the process of transitioning is 3-5 years. A lot of people find it extremely daunting to think about attempting to pass as one thing or another. That's a lot of pressure to take on, especially when you're not getting any chemical assistance. If the idea of anything outside the binary makes you uncomfortable, keep in mind that a lot of those people might be on a journey and might end up more in line with your thinking when that's done, so cut them some slack in the meantime. Or they might not, that might just be what they are, which is really none of your concern. Anyway, peace and love and stuff. That's all great and I wish you all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, KingBollock said: Are your parents Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney? Dunno I'm an orphan 😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: It’s all part of the act/parody of the stereotypical northern hard-man/lad image of the 80s, luckily he and the band are nothing like that off stage. That’s good to hear. I can’t remember specifically what he’d said, but I got the impression of a grumpy old bloke complaining about immigrants. But then I am happy to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Cato said: Welcome back KB! Thanks! It’s good to be back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, KingBollock said: I used to love Chubby Brown when I was a kid (my mum used to practically wet herself at that funny little dance he does). But I remember seeing a documentary about him years ago and being really disappointed that his “views” didn’t stay on the stage. He actually reminded me of my dad… I had a similar thing with the Macc Lads. I saw a couple of their more recent gigs on YouTube and Mutley came across just as bigoted as their music suggests. Without the “excuse” of youth, it seemed really sad, unfortunately. Mind you, I’ve been listening to them for 34 years and don’t want to stop. I might not be an actual bigot (I hope) but I am a hypocrite. Does chubby brown still tour? Not heard anything about him for years I really like frankie boyle think he's really funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Thunderbird said: Does chubby brown still tour? Not heard anything about him for years I really like frankie boyle think he's really funny Yup, Chubby Brown is still touring. I, too, am a fan of Frankie Boyle. I like Jimmy Carr as well. One thing I really like about both of those is that they genuinely enjoy humour. That might sound like a strange thing to say, but some comedians never seem to laugh, but watching Jimmy and Frankie corpsing to something they’ve just heard is a joy to see. Edited January 8, 2022 by KingBollock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubit Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I also like Franke Boyle but he came here once years ago and he was dreadful. Loads of people complained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnPatroller Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Frank Skinner used to do some really, really close to the edge stuff back in the late 90's that definitely wouldn't fly these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peloquin Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I'm surprised Cancerslug don't get more trouble. Some of their stuff is really good though. Richard Solid is a great song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 20 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said: So the variations in how individual seats vote is just the 14 million tory voters moving house a lot? This is interesting (and this is not a political point). There are 650 parliamentary seats in the UK. There are quite a few safe seats (of all colours), but many- even those that are not out and out swing seats - are quite finely balanced in terms of voting. Nationally, this tends to be the case - have a look at total numbers of votes cast for the various parties, particularly the big two, and you will see this. It takes surprisingly small numbers of people to change their vote to produce marked changes in results. Well under a million votes cast one way or the other - which is only around 2% of total registered voters - can produce large swings. The first past the post electoral system tends to amplify this effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Bisby Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Hung like Hanratty 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Rob Bisby said: Hung like Hanratty 👍 Good band 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 9 hours ago, DawnPatroller said: Frank Skinner used to do some really, really close to the edge stuff back in the late 90's that definitely wouldn't fly these days. Could never really get into Frank skinner just didn't do it for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomed Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Always loved the Macc Lads. Trigger McPoopshute from South Wales could be considered offensive I suppose if you're that way inclined, personally I think they're hilarious and if you know the area they're from and some of the characters in their songs doubly so, songs like 'Skidmarks and Spencers', 'Give and Take', 'Special Needs Druglord' and 'Telford Suicide W*nk Palace', deserve their own place in punk history. More power to them. Edited January 9, 2022 by doomed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I’d forgotten about Skidmarks and Spencer’s by Trigger McPoopshute, brings back fond memories of gigging with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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