lidl e Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 39 minutes ago, MichaelDean said: You can get it on Amazon. Just ordered it from the US amazon. Cheers! Pricey but i need it. Quote
BlueMoon Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 Knobs are available in the euro-zone from: https://www.public-peace.de/meisterworks-luminlay-knob-5-to-5-boost-cut-screwable.html?language=en Not sure if they still stock the fingerboard dots though. Looks like you’ve got it sorted anyhow. 1 Quote
itu Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 The glowing material can be Zn (zinc) based (poor performance), so now most of the inactive materials are Sr (strontium) based, like Superluminova. If the layer is thick enough, and density good, luminous material can glow few days. Luminova comes from Japan. Tritium (second isotope of hydrogen) is a radioactive gas which has a half life of 12.5 years. The gas is usually sealed to a glass tube. The inside of the tube is covered with material that glows because of the decaying tritium. There are few other active materials (like Radium et al.) but far more expensive and very uncommon for civil users. Active materials will have poor performance after the half life, but modern inactive materials may perform well even after decades. 1 1 Quote
Geek99 Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 On 04/04/2022 at 03:57, jd56hawk said: I prefer Glowtech. Their postage is very expensive 1 Quote
itu Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 13 hours ago, Geek99 said: Their postage is very expensive I am amazed of their claimed performance, which seems to be poor. I think they do not use lots of powder. I have made tests where several layers of powder can glow up to three days. Naturally the glow at the end is low, but visible. Quote
jd56hawk Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) I should've stocked up on this item while it was still available. Edited February 10, 2024 by jd56hawk Quote
King Tut Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Last one I got was through Amazon’s German site. Just put some glow tech stickers on my thunderbird and they’ve stood up to a couple of rehearsals. Quote
lidl e Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 8 hours ago, jd56hawk said: I should've stocked up on this item while it was still available. Are those SIMs? I have a flying V 8 string bass with SIMs LEDs on side and as inlays and a headstock LED inlay AND a laser that shoots out of the headstock! 2 Quote
jd56hawk Posted February 11, 2024 Posted February 11, 2024 15 hours ago, lidl e said: Are those SIMs? I have a flying V 8 string bass with SIMs LEDs on side and as inlays and a headstock LED inlay AND a laser that shoots out of the headstock! 1 Quote
hankhill Posted February 12, 2024 Author Posted February 12, 2024 As the one who started this thread, I’ve pretty much given up on this idea, for several reasons. 1. As well as being the bass player, I’m now also the unofficial lighting engineer in our band, so I always make sure there’s a spot pointing in my direction:) 2. Seems that any passive luminous material has a limited life of maybe 10-12 years. I have some basses that are nearly 40 years old…not that I would drill one of those, but if I did fit Luminlay I’d expect it to last the life of the instrument. 3. I’ve had reasonable success with simple luminous spot stickers bought on Amazon. If you carefully clean the oils off the neck first, they’ll last several months and are easy to replace. If I know I’m going to playing in a dark hole, I use a bass with those on. I do find the FretFX approach interesting and might consider that in the future, although if they shine brightly towards the front/audience then personally that’s a no-no, as guitars with bright LEDs look pretentious and stupid in my humble opinion. 1 Quote
lidl e Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 Received my luminlay today. Will post when installed Quote
hankhill Posted February 13, 2024 Author Posted February 13, 2024 Following with interest. Any photos of the actual installation would be great. 1 Quote
lidl e Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 24 minutes ago, hankhill said: Following with interest. Any photos of the actual installation would be great. Oh, i wont be doing it myself! I dont trust me with a drill near a neck. Dropping it off to a luthier tomorrow. Quote
itu Posted February 13, 2024 Posted February 13, 2024 On 12/02/2024 at 14:47, hankhill said: 2. Seems that any passive luminous material has a limited life of maybe 10-12 years. No. Active material, tritium, has a lifetime of 12.5 years. Modern inactive materials are functional for a longer time, like decades, although they may degrade slightly over time. I have seen products that have been up to 60 years old that work just fine. Older zinc sulphite materials are still functional, but they have never been very good compared to these newer Sr aluminate mixtures. You buy any better watch, and the hands are printed with (Super-) Luminova. Watch industry uses mostly inactive materials, because they last so long. There are few companies like Traser that likes to use tritium tubes, but that's a gimmick. You can buy gun sights with tritium tubes (Trijicon, Meprolight...), but again, who really needs them? You need a longer glow, you just mix more powder to the lacquer. Maier's pages are a chore, but if you are active enough (joke!), and understand some German, you may find some interesting data there. Some of it is visible and hidden at the same time. https://www.leuchtfarben.de/ Quote
tauzero Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Has anyone here tried any of the luminous acrylic paints? Quote
lidl e Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 Just dropped my bass of to the guy. Should have it done by tomorrow. Will post pics. Did you lads know that the underside of a neck doesn't have fret markers! It's so obvious now, but i never even considered it when i built this bass. I'm hoping the guy does a slick job. He's very good at inlay work, so he should be alright. Quote
tauzero Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 57 minutes ago, lidl e said: Did you lads know that the underside of a neck doesn't have fret markers! It's so obvious now, but i never even considered it when i built this bass. If it does, it means it can be used by a leftie as well as a rightie. Quote
lidl e Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 1 minute ago, tauzero said: If it does, it means it can be used by a leftie as well as a rightie. Aye. I put a left hand neck on a righty bass. I never realise how much i used the side dots until they weren't there. i didn't even consider they wouldn't be. Quote
Aidan63 Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 2 hours ago, tauzero said: Has anyone here tried any of the luminous acrylic paints? I've got Spacebeams Aurora, fairly subtle but does work, does come off if not top coated but easy to add fresh, not much of a problem if you don't wrap your thumb around the neck, but if you have a neck strap in the case it will rub off in that area Quote
warwickhunt Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 I've been using strips of day-glo orange duct/gaffa tape as side 'dots' for ages... I'm thinking the glo in the dark stuff off ebay @ £4.10 inc delivery will be a luxury! Quote
hankhill Posted February 14, 2024 Author Posted February 14, 2024 Here’s what I used from Amazon, it’s not available right now but gives an idea. Obviously just the smallest dots… https://amzn.eu/d/iAYoLYk Quote
lidl e Posted February 14, 2024 Posted February 14, 2024 On 13/02/2024 at 11:41, hankhill said: Following with interest. Any photos of the actual installation would be great. Your man just sent me this 3 Quote
dutchwife Posted February 15, 2024 Posted February 15, 2024 Quick note here that I’m in Osaka and happy to oblige if it helps. I believe that current exchange rates are definitely friendly as the yen is busy tanking of late…. 2 Quote
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