NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I listened to this (off Spotify) yesterday and it's on now. Of the studio content, I'll be honest and say that I'm very familiar with the first four tracks and the final one (Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, Limelight and Vital Signs), less so The Camera Eye or Witch Hunt, which I always skipped over. Have to say I haven't listened to this album in over 20 years and the five tracks I mentioned still sound great, my opinion of the other two hasn't changed. With The Camera Eye I always felt a bit short-changed that they'd lifted whole sequences from Permanent Waves' 'Freewill'. Moving along, as this is an expanded release, the live in Toronto 1981 content (Camera Eye aside!) is blindingly good. I'd forgotten how decent they were live in the early 80s. The live production is pretty lively, way better than Exit...Stage Left; interestingly, sides 2-4 of E...SL was recorded in Montreal on 27/3/81, just two days after the new content on the Moving Pictures live content was recorded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said: With The Camera Eye I always felt a bit short-changed that they'd lifted whole sequences from Permanent Waves' 'Freewill'. Explain yourself, Johnson! Edited April 29, 2022 by wateroftyne 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) Even the band described ESL as "live - ish"! I'm interested in hearing the live set in this release, but tbh I've heard Moving Pictures so many times since 1981 that I genuinely don't think I'll ever feel the need to listen to it again! 5 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: Explain yourself, Jonhson! Quite! Camera Eye is probably my favourite MP track, and Free Will might be my favourite Rush song (if there can ever be such a thing!) and I've never noticed a similarity! Edited April 29, 2022 by Bassassin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bassassin said: Even the band described ESL as "live - ish"! I'm interested in hearing the live set in this release, but tbh I've heard Moving Pictures so many times since 1981 that I genuinely don't think I'll ever feel the need to listen to it again! The live set is brilliant. It smokes ESL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 It’s a great addition, as are all the 40th anniversary reissues, some top live cuts on them. I want them to do the same for Caress of Steel and Fly By Night too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Mind, on the live set... the notes Geddy's playing with the bass pedals on Natural Science are a bit odd, and makes it sound almost jaunty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhammer666 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 IMO witch hunt is the best song on the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Mrs.H ordered this for me for my birthday many months ago and it's just arrived. It's by far the largest set out of all the Super Deluxe Editions so far. Agreed with all the comments about regarding the live set. A worthy edition to any fan's collection. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with the drum sticks though 😂. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I don't suppose it's possible to just purchase the live set anywhere? I don't need the rest of it again and I too have never been bothered about 'The Camera Eye' or 'Witch Hunt'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, wateroftyne said: Explain yourself, Johnson! Haha. In The Camera Eye, don't you hear the similarity in the repeated sequence from about 2"40' to Freewill? As soon as I heard it all those years ago it was, 'Oh, that sounds familiar.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, wateroftyne said: The live set is brilliant. It smokes ESL... I remember getting Exit...Stage Left for Christmas and dropping the needle on the vinyl and thinking, 'What the hell is this?' It was muddy sounding, just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Daz39 said: It’s a great addition, as are all the 40th anniversary reissues, some top live cuts on them. I want them to do the same for Caress of Steel and Fly By Night too! Caress of Steel too? Are you bonkers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said: Haha. In The Camera Eye, don't you hear the similarity in the repeated sequence from about 2"40' to Freewill? As soon as I heard it all those years ago it was, 'Oh, that sounds familiar.' Listening now, I can kinda hear what you're getting it, but only if I think about it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Yeah, I can’t see them going backwards. 2112 was an appropriate place to start with these expanded editions. Next up….Signals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Yeah, I can’t see them going backwards. 2112 was an appropriate place to start with these expanded editions. Next up….Signals. I'm looking forward to them all up to Counterparts. After that... meh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said: Caress of Steel too? Are you bonkers? The Necromancer is one of my favourite tracks. It's just, everything. Shush. I learned to play the long players like Fountain of Lamneth, 2112 and Xanadu when I first got a bass. Once I got to Hemispheres part 2 I realised my limitations I guess there's not much variation in Live stuff from back then - CoT was written on the road while touring Fly by Night, and 2112 was very soon afterwards. It's nice to listen to Geddy's voice from this era too - while the recent live albums are amazing playing, he's obviously struggling to reach those 70s notes with his voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: I'm looking forward to them all up to Counterparts. After that... meh That's next decade though, not sure I want to think about my age by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Pre-ordered the CD pack the other day, received an email saying that they (HMV) wouldn't have enough for immediate despatch . Now waiting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 Rush are a weird one for me, I started with All The World's A Stage and went backwards from there, so broadly there was about a year between this and A Farewell To Kings, at which point I was probably more into punk than anything else, although it had to be said that my formulative bass-learning years were in my bedroom playing along with the ATWAS. With every album from Moving Pictures, I lost a little more interest; as I mentioned earlier, I like maybe 60% of Moving Pictures and by the time we hit Signals there were just a couple of tracks (Subdivisions/Countdown), Grace Under Pressure (nothing really of note), Power Windows was just The Big Money and Hold Your Fire was Time Stand Still. I've not listened to a Rush studio album beyond that. All said and done, I do enjoy the live stuff and find all three bandmembers quite engaging/entertaining. The recent documentary was wonderful viewing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: Mrs.H ordered this for me for my birthday many months ago and it's just arrived. It's by far the largest set out of all the Super Deluxe Editions so far. Agreed with all the comments about regarding the live set. A worthy edition to any fan's collection. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with the drum sticks though 😂. You need to rip the 5.1, I still need to do that Ronson one for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Haven't listened to that yet, but if it is a remaster i might put it off, I don't have a great history of finding remasters better than the original (and some, a complete travesty). I like camera eye and witch hunt, there isn't a bad track on moving pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 IMO the only really bad thing about the remasters is the rebooted cover artwork. Relentless travesties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Just now, Woodinblack said: Haven't listened to that yet, but if it is a remaster i might put it off, I don't have a great history of finding remasters better than the original (and some, a complete travesty). I like camera eye and witch hunt, there isn't a bad track on moving pictures. It was hearing Red Barchetta from the new release on the radio that had me rushing (pun intended) to press the add to basket button. The separation is lovely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 Sounds good, will give it a listen then. It was Genesis trick of the tail which put me off remasters, in that it completely broke Ripples which is one of my favourite tracks. However, some of the Steven Wilson remasters have been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Karloff Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 5 hours ago, christhammer666 said: IMO witch hunt is the best song on the album Witch Hunt was recorded the same day John Lennon was shot. Trivia I didn't know until a few weeks ago. Somehow adds more menace to a track dipped in menace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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