dmc79 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Just a quick one. Recently sold a red 2004 USA Series P with a lovely satin neck. Fancied a change of colour & some upgrades, and having wanted a black P for sometime I got a 2008 USA P with CS62 pickups & KioGon wiring loom fitted by Lozz (thanks!) of this parish. Hi mass vintage bridge & lightweight tuners were improvements over what I had. It’s a great bass and sounds great which is the main thing. I do miss the satin neck finish of my older Bass though. I ran both basses through Fender’s serial number check and bizarrely the 2008 doesn’t show the neck finish, but does show ‘Neck shape: Modern C’ twice on consecutive rows. I guess this was a mistake and they should have shown neck finish on one of those rows. The 2004 does state ‘Neck finish: Satin urethane’. Have all USA P basses come with gloss necks from 2008 onwards? Are there satin options amongst the 2013-16 models? I love this bass but not sure I can get used to the gloss neck. Tempted to get an American Special to go back to a satin neck (also slimmer neck, and lighter, slimmer body) to use as a mod platform. I figure the neck is pretty important so I could upgrade bridge, pickups, tone circuitry (if needed), tuners etc on an American Special to get it near to the level of a USA standard, just without the rolled fretboard edges (I am guessing the American Specials didn’t have those, can anyone confirm?). Also those models are hard to come by anyway. I have a wanted ad out for one so will just have to play the waiting game. I am a one bass man, but I love the thought of a slimmer P satin neck, and a bit less weight overall. Mine comes in at 4.2 Kg / 9.2 lbs, and I believe the 2013-16 models are lighter (but still have gloss necks?) Thanks Edited May 3, 2022 by dmc79 Quote
spyder Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 How about an Ashdown Arc. Mine has an amazing oiled neck. Much better than a gloss neck IMHO. Quote
Lozz196 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 US Standards of 2013-16 are gloss. Def worth trying imo, as this range for me are the best Fender have put out. 1 Quote
dmc79 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: US Standards of 2013-16 are gloss. Def worth trying imo, as this range for me are the best Fender have put out. Thanks. May do if one ever comes up on here. I know the 2013-16 are lighter. Otherwise is there any difference at all from the 2008-12 models apart from having CS62s as stock? Do the necks feel exactly the same? Edited May 3, 2022 by dmc79 Quote
dmc79 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, PaulThePlug said: 0000 Wire Wool or 3000 Grit... 'n go steady. I’ve read that this is an option. I’d be terrified doing anything like that, I’d have to take it to a guitar pro for something like that. Would de-glossing affect resale value if I ever move it on? Quote
dmc79 Posted May 3, 2022 Author Posted May 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, spyder said: How about an Ashdown Arc. Mine has an amazing oiled neck. Much better than a gloss neck IMHO. I’ll take a look but prefer to stick with Fender Quote
Bassassin Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, PaulThePlug said: 0000 Wire Wool or 3000 Grit... 'n go steady. 10 minutes ago, dmc79 said: I’ve read that this is an option. I’d be terrified doing anything like that, I’d have to take it to a guitar pro for something like that. Would de-glossing affect resale value if I ever move it on? If the neck is a poly finish, the gloss will restore easily with T-Cut. I'd suggest something like a plastic scouring pad to get the satin finish - less chance of stray bits of wire wool ending up in your pickups/electronics... 2 Quote
Lozz196 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, dmc79 said: Thanks. May do if one ever comes up on here. I know the 2013-16 are lighter. Otherwise is there any difference at all from the 2008-12 models apart from having CS62s as stock? Do the necks feel exactly the same? I find the necks on the 13-16 to be deeper, the 08-12s flatter feeling. 1 Quote
PaulThePlug Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Scotchbrite Pad... Loads on Youtube... For naptha, use lighter fluid a couple of quid... Find a cheap bit of lacquered or varnished furniture out a charity shop and feel and see how the pad works as a test. Mask the neck heel and headstock tapper and along the fretboard edges... Edited May 3, 2022 by PaulThePlug 2 Quote
soulstar89 Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, PaulThePlug said: Scotchbrite Pad... Loads on Youtube... For naptha, use lighter fluid a couple of quid... Find a cheap bit of lacquered or varnished furniture out a charity shop and feel and see how the pad works as a test. Mask the neck heel and headstock tapper and along the fretboard edges... thanks for this. i struggle with gloss necks. will give this a try 1 Quote
Eldon Tyrell Posted May 3, 2022 Posted May 3, 2022 The new Pro II has a “Super Natural” Satin Urethane neck finish. The Pro I had a similar finish, both very nice but I found the 63 style necks a bit chunky for my taste. 1 Quote
dmc79 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Posted May 5, 2022 Thanks for the advice everyone. I may try the scouring pad / wire wool thing on the back of the neck, or get a guitar pro to do it. The vid states that you don’t need to oil it after unless you’ve taken it down to the bare wood. So if I don’t want it down to bare wood is it just the Scotchbrite pad, or do I still do the wire wool thing? When I said about getting used to the gloss finish, I meant on the fretboard itself too, not just the back of the neck. I guess I’ll adjust to it in time. It’s a killer bass though. Quote
Dov65 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 Done a few necks using 0000 wire wool nice and easy does it, it'll take the grabby feel away no problem. I finished them with a coat of beeswax easy to apply & a rub with a clean dry cloth to finish it. Watch your pickups using the wool as the poles will attract it. 2 Quote
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