XLR cables

[Waddycall]

Looking for a balanced XLR for my rack set up. These any good? 😂

https://www.mcru.co.uk/product/the-ultimate-balalnced-xlr-cables/

[WHUFC BASS]

As long as you get a reasonably good quality cable, that'd be fine.

 

The whole super-expensive cable thing is just a massive con, just like tone wood and valves/tube making a difference to your sound.

[bertbass]

I can hear a can of worms opening here!

[Acebassmusic]

42 minutes ago, bertbass said:

I can hear a can of worms opening here!

Ah, but the sound of that can of worms would have much more clarity if listened to through those cables 🤣🤣

[bertbass]

But I use wireless.

[EBS_freak]

Just now, bertbass said:

But I use wireless.

Which ironically, uses more cables

[Chienmortbb]

I cannot see any reference to the drugs supplied to make you believe that a cable costing just south of  grand will improve your sound. This is utter rowlocks.

[Jack]

No. Cheap cables like that will ruin your sound, you'll need an expensive one to really do your sound justice. 

[ahpook]

Where are my cryo-treated, degaussed, carbon fibre ears ?

 

[BigRedX]

Why are the XLR connectors in the image shown when you click the link both male? There are only very few highly specialised instances when you would need a male-male XLR cable (such as using a passive DI box for re-amping a recorded signal). It's a bogus as the rest of the site.

[bartelby]

2 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

Why are the XLR connectors in the image shown when you click the link both male? There are only very few highly specialised instances when you would need a male-male XLR cable (such as using a passive DI box for re-amping a recorded signal). It's a bogus as the rest of the site.

 

The 2nd image is a male/female cable.

Edit: oh, just saw the prices... 

Edited May 17, 2022 by bartelby

[Matt P]

the price is actually for a pair of 0.5m cables, they are intended for HiFi use as a connection between separates. 

 

I'm not trying to justify the cost (which i think is a joke) but it explains the images (2 x male to female leads)

 

my hifi is mostly connected together with the same Klotz AC110 cable that i use for my bass, with REAN phono plugs. done that way so i can use sensible length cables to reduce the clutter behind the HiFi rack and because i bought a 100m drum of the cable.

 

22 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

Why are the XLR connectors in the image shown when you click the link both male? There are only very few highly specialised instances when you would need a male-male XLR cable (such as using a passive DI box for re-amping a recorded signal). It's a bogus as the rest of the site.

 

20 minutes ago, bartelby said:

 

The 2nd image is a male/female cable.

Edit: oh, just saw the prices... 

 

matt

[Buddster]

 

we have used the best conductors and what we consider the best XLR plugs and added our own magic ingrediants to offer a superb cable, able to compete with the big brands.

 

🤣🤣🤣

 

However, I do need new a new mains cable for £700. 

Edited May 17, 2022 by Buddster

[stevie]

It looks like somebody chancing his arm. The website needs a proofreader. Of course, the claims are ridiculous and I blame the hi-fi press for creating and perpetuating these myths.

[Matt P]

these cables could be described as cheap,

 

if you want some high end HiFi snake oil then try These

 

Matt

[stevie]

Russ Andrews has been outed a few times in the press for his outrageous claims - I'm surprised he's still in business.

[itu]

Does he have a Cable Cooker (TM)? If not, I cannot trust his knowledge and understanding. Cable Cooker (TM) is a Must to every Hi-Fi person!

 

I think he should also sell wooden tone blanks, that you could raise cables from the floor to make the sound more airy. 

 

(If anyone even faintly thinks I recommend this sheet, I have added this text.)

[Chienmortbb]

9 hours ago, Matt P said:

my hifi is mostly connected together with the same Klotz AC110 cable that i use for my bass, with REAN phono plugs. done that way so i can use sensible length cables to reduce the clutter behind the HiFi rack and because i bought a 100m drum of the cable.

You won't buy better cables.

[WHUFC BASS]

The bottom line is if they can't provide a demonstrable linear graph to show the difference between their cables and others then they can be 'effed off without a second thought. Anything presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Same goes for valves and "tonewood" (in electric instruments) - another huge scam.

[zbd1960]

I suppose I'm a 'serious' hi-fi person... It was around late 80s/ early 90s that cables started to become a 'big thing'. I remember Hi-fi Answers (magazine) got obsessed with it... It got to be such woo-woo that I stopped buying the mags. It got to be absurd. 

 

There is some mileage in quality of cables, insulation, shielding, connectors... but I think the law of diminishing returns kicks in quite quickly. So is the £10/m speaker cable better than the bell-wire stuff you used to get? Pretty sure yes. Is the £200/m cable much better than the £10/m? Almost certainly no.

 

A big issue is no one that I am aware of has come up with a scientifically provable way of impartially determining cable 'quality' beyond things that can be measured like resistance, capacitance, inductance, purity of conductor etc. This means that either it cannot be measured, or we haven't found out 'what' to measure. This means it is highly subjective and that also means it's open to suggestion, which is how the snake oil merchants get in.    

[BigRedX]

Any supposed benefits of esoteric HiFi are completely and utterly negated by:

 

1. The end user's listening environment.

 

2. The 100's of metres of (comparably) very ordinary cables that the audio signals have passed through (not to mention the number of high-density circuit boards full of surface-mount components) before they reach the end user's chosen delivery medium.

[itu]

A local acoustic researcher did a test between two cables years ago. The high end one was ridiculously expensive, thick silver cable. The other was some cheap basic copper wire. The difference was measured, and it was there: the much cheaper had 0.05 dB less ultra highs. Of course the signal would deteriorate in long runs, like 100 m or more.

 

There are other details that interest me, when I choose cables: robustness, materials, thickness, flexibility, Neutrik connectors... I am prepared to pay something, but jokes do not interest me at all.

 

One reason for those high price cables is that if the stereo set costs an arm and a leg, the cables have to be something else than £2 from a local store. Someone just saw a possibility, and now we have funny priced cables.

[Jack]

On 18/05/2022 at 17:45, itu said:

A local acoustic researcher did a test between two cables years ago. The high end one was ridiculously expensive, thick silver cable. The other was some cheap basic copper wire. The difference was measured, and it was there: the much cheaper had 0.05 dB less ultra highs. Of course the signal would deteriorate in long runs, like 100 m or more.

 

There are other details that interest me, when I choose cables: robustness, materials, thickness, flexibility, Neutrik connectors... I am prepared to pay something, but jokes do not interest me at all.

 

One reason for those high price cables is that if the stereo set costs an arm and a leg, the cables have to be something else than £2 from a local store. Someone just saw a possibility, and now we have funny priced cables.

Can you remember where that test was? I'd be curious to see it. I reckon there's one or hifi reviewers for magazines who'd call that a meaningful difference! 😄

[ahpook]

On 17/05/2022 at 14:12, Matt P said:

these cables could be described as cheap,

 

if you want some high end HiFi snake oil then try These

 

Matt

 

Oooh, they're naked. 🧐

[itu]

1 hour ago, Jack said:

Can you remember where that test was? I'd be curious to see it. I reckon there's one or hifi reviewers for magazines who'd call that a meaningful difference! 😄

Sorry, no. I just remember that we laughed ourselves silly thinking about that 0.05 dB vs. £1000 or whatever the cost was.