Owen Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Hi all, I have a student who is running a 2012 MBP on Catalina. She has been using Garage Band at home but Logic in College with us. She fancies upgrading to Logic. She cannot purchase it into Catalina. Does anyone know of a workaround on the app store? She is looking to spend the money, she just cannot. This is not a request for cracked copies. TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Yes, I've done myself with previous version of Logic X. There are two methods: 1. If she knows someone that she trusts who has a suitably up to date Mac, and will let her create a temporary user account on it. Then she can sign on her temporary account, and use her Apple ID to access the store and purchase the latest version of Logic. Back on her own Mac she can then get the most recent version that will run under Catalina, by going her "Purchased" list in the app store. Once that has worked she can delete the temporary user account off the other Mac. 2. Alternatively she could buy the cheapest suitable Mac she can find form an on-line retailer. Create a user account and buy Logic as before, and then download the latest working version on her Mac. Once that has been done, wipe the new Mac and return for a refund under the distance selling regulations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 BRX to the rescue once again. Thanks, I knew method 1 was an option but I could not remember the details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 One thing to be aware of is that projects saved in the very latest version of Logic X are not completely backwards compatible with earlier versions. Previously you would get a message saying that the project was created by a newer version of Logic X and may not be compatible, but it would open even if there were elements that the older version didn't recognise because they used features only available in the newer version. However since the last update I now get a message saying the project can't be opened at all. This doesn't appear to affect Logic users on Catalina yet (the affected Mac is only running High Sierra), but could become issue in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) <sigh> I am back again. I have set up the student's account on my MBP, but after she logs in and goes to the App store it sees my copy of Logic so there there is no option to buy. Any further guidance? She is signed in as her on the App store. Thanks as usual. Edited May 24, 2022 by Owen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I think I know what the problem is. Because Logic is installed in main Applications folder (rather than the individual user's applications folder), when she logs into the App Store, it can already see that Logic has been downloaded, and therefore won't offer the option to buy it. Try logging back in to the Mac as yourself and move the Logic Application from the Applications folder into a new folder with some obscure name on the desktop. Then try again. Hopefully she'll be able to buy now and once that has been done you'll be able to move the Logic app back to its proper location. If that doesn't work she'll have to use the other route I suggested in my original post or try this process on a Mac that doesn't already have Logic installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Thanks. I just created a folder called Obscure on the desktop and moved Logic into it. Logic is still in the Applications folder and there is an alias in the Obscure folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 OK, I've just done the same with the same result. However, it is possible to move to move Logic to the Trash by right clicking and then moving it from the Trash to another folder on your Mac. See if that will let her buy a copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Those were the directions I needed. Thank you. But Apple has clocked that she is running less than OS11.5 on her MBP so is refusing to sell it to her. Deeply frustrating, but there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Weird... However that looks like an education price, maybe the Apple ID and hardware are more closely linked for education users due to the discounted prices of both? I was able to get this to work for me with the a previous version of Logic Pro X, but... 1. I'm not an education user 2. I'm also the main user on the Mac I used to buy my copy of Logic Pro X You probably already have, but just double-check that your Mac is running the appropriate version of Mac OS as shown in that dialogue box, because there has been a recent update to Logic Pro X that upped the required version of the OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Where would I be without you? I am running 11.4. Again, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Owen said: Those were the directions I needed. Thank you. But Apple has clocked that she is running less than OS11.5 on her MBP so is refusing to sell it to her. Is there a reason you can't or don't want to update to 11.5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Hopefully after you've updated your OS, you'll be able to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Nope Just now, Woodinblack said: Is there a reason you can't or don't want to update to 11.5? Nope. I have started to not update after waiting months for plugins to catch up with Big Sur. But I shall update now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Mac OS 11.5 has been out for almost a year now and AFAICS is mostly bug fixes and security updates, so it shouldn't have any implications for 3rd party plug-ins. However be aware that if you do update it may automatically go all the way to 11.6.5. If you want to just get 11.5 try searching for Mac OSX 11.5 combo update. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 Job done Thanks BRX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Now just the small matter of making the next greatest album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Now just the small matter of making the next greatest album! That is her problem. I am busy writing my own debut. I am 56 years old. Absolutely tragic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Owen said: That is her problem. I am busy writing my own debut. I am 56 years old. Absolutely tragic! Well, I am 57 today, and I haven't started yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Woodinblack said: Well, I am 57 today, and I haven't started yet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Glad you got there in the end. Pity Apple make it such a convoluted process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 24, 2022 Author Share Posted May 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, BigRedX said: Glad you got there in the end. Pity Apple make it such a convoluted process. For a company which wants our money, they make it quite hard unless you are on the shiniest kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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