Tjhooker Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 This guys is at it again.. Interesting stuff once more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Love this kind of thing and good on him. My conclusion; when listening through laptop speakers there was so little difference as to be immeasurable. That should tell me lots but I'll need to think it through. Oh and I will be making a donation... just because. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 That was an interesting watch. I've no idea how long it took him, but it must have been ages. He's also a helluva country picker (see his other vids). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) He could have saved a lot of time, work and wood by reading a book. Everything he 'discovered' and a lot more has been well known in the professional audio community since the 1950s. For instance: http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf And while he's identified how some changes in response occur he still doesn't know why. Edited May 27, 2022 by Bill Fitzmaurice 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: He could have saved a lot of time, work and wood by reading a book. Everything he 'discovered' and a lot more has been well known in the professional audio community since the 1950s. For instance: http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf And while he's identified how some changes in response occur he still doesn't know why. I doubt that a YouTube video of Jim Lill reading a book wood get many views though! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 IMO "tone" in a speaker cab is an unwanted artefact. It should be as neutral as it is possible to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: He could have saved a lot of time, work and wood by reading a book. Everything he 'discovered' and a lot more has been well known in the professional audio community since the 1950s. For instance: http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf And while he's identified how some changes in response occur he still doesn't know why. I think the aim of the video was more to be entertaining than to be educational. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said: He could have saved a lot of time, work and wood by reading a book. Everything he 'discovered' and a lot more has been well known in the professional audio community since the 1950s. For instance: http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf And while he's identified how some changes in response occur he still doesn't know why. Good grief 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin Venal Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I'm surprised. I thought the density and rigidity of the wood would make a lot more difference than it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyc Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Now he's done the work of building the cabs I'd love to see what happens to the sound as the mic goes futher away, and off-axis. In particular I'd like to see the cabs with the multiple speakers at different distances from each other and how that affects the sound when the microphone isn't shoved up to the cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Vin Venal said: I'm surprised. I thought the density and rigidity of the wood would make a lot more difference than it did. I don't think any of that video applies to bass guitar cabs, hi-fi cabs, PA cabs, studio monitors or most other speaker systems where the cabinet can make an appreciable difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, chyc said: Now he's done the work of building the cabs I'd love to see what happens to the sound as the mic goes futher away, and off-axis. In particular I'd like to see the cabs with the multiple speakers at different distances from each other and how that affects the sound when the microphone isn't shoved up to the cone. All of this is also well known, having been mathematically quantified by 1940. There's even software that will accurately map it out. For instance: https://www.comsol.com/acoustics-module Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moldsight Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Thanks for the links Bill, very useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Vin Venal said: I'm surprised. I thought the density and rigidity of the wood would make a lot more difference than it did. Afaik density isn't an acoustic quality, more commonly a by product of 'rigidity' aka stiffness. Then you get the foam stuff. I don't know how stiff it is but obviously stiff enough not to affect the tone in a small cab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Fascinating video although I think I need to listen to it via headphones. Much more fun that reading a book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) On 27/05/2022 at 14:01, Bill Fitzmaurice said: He could have saved a lot of time, work and wood by reading a book. Everything he 'discovered' and a lot more has been well known in the professional audio community since the 1950s. For instance: http://cyrille.pinton.free.fr/electroac/lectures_utiles/son/Olson.pdf And while he's identified how some changes in response occur he still doesn't know why. Now while we're at it, why don't we just shut down the forum and read some books instead? Actually, why don't we just quit playing bass and read some books about it instead? Hell, why even bother living, there are already plenty of great biographies as it is? Edited June 1, 2022 by Baloney Balderdash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) On 27/05/2022 at 17:22, Bill Fitzmaurice said: All of this is also well known, having been mathematically quantified by 1940. There's even software that will accurately map it out. For instance: https://www.comsol.com/acoustics-module You are late to the party buddy, someone already linked that before. Edited June 1, 2022 by Baloney Balderdash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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