BassAdder60 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Folk who know me on here are aware I have Ashdown ABM600 with two ABM210H compact cabs ( nice rig ) Ampeg V4 B plus SVT212AV ( great rig ) Orangel Little Bass Thing ( back up amp ) Ok so if I was looking to thin the herd and minimise my cab stock which rig would you change and why ? im happy with all of them but aware not all work with each other ie SVT212AV is 4ohm the two ABM210H are 8 ohms each Practicality of transported rig in large car is a consideration ( cant get all three cabs in as example ) Typical gigs pubs, clubs and outside events Not tried the V4B with the Ashdown cabs so not sure if that would sound better than the SVT212AV cab ? The V4B is amazing and definitely a keeper ! Edited June 19, 2022 by BassAdder27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Out of all of those I’d keep the full Ashdown setup, more versatile & powerful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Lozz196 said: Out of all of those I’d keep the full Ashdown setup, more versatile & powerful. Be interesting what a V4 sounds like with two Ashdown cabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea Turgh Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 12 hours ago, BassAdder27 said: Be interesting what a V4 sounds like with two Ashdown cabs Take them out on the next gig then! 2x 8ohm cabs will present a 4ohm load to the amp, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Pea Turgh said: Take them out on the next gig then! 2x 8ohm cabs will present a 4ohm load to the amp, no? I think next rehearsal is a better plan and hear how they fair The two Ashdown cabs sound very good with the ABM600 head so I would imagine the V4B would sound good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Hi BassAdder, another "need to know" is what the ABM600 sounds like through the SVT212 cab. The amp that will cover amost any volume needs is the ABM, so for me that would have to be a keeper. If it were me, I'd only want to keep the Ampeg cab, or the pair of ABM cabs. Lightness, tone and power handling all come into the equation. Those Ashdown cabs weigh an absolute ton, considering they are "only" a 2x10. Seems to me like the Ampeg 2x12 would cover all your needs, including higher volume gigs, with the ABM, when required. Its not a lightweight cab, but at least its only one almost 30kg cab, instead of two. You have some nice problems. Very first world problems ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, hamfist said: Hi BassAdder, another "need to know" is what the ABM600 sounds like through the SVT212 cab. The amp that will cover amost any volume needs is the ABM, so for me that would have to be a keeper. If it were me, I'd only want to keep the Ampeg cab, or the pair of ABM cabs. Lightness, tone and power handling all come into the equation. Those Ashdown cabs weigh an absolute ton, considering they are "only" a 2x10. Seems to me like the Ampeg 2x12 would cover all your needs, including higher volume gigs, with the ABM, when required. Its not a lightweight cab, but at least its only one almost 30kg cab, instead of two. You have some nice problems. Very first world problems ! Indeed, a dilemma choosing gear for the right job. The ABM600 sounds good through the SVT212AV cab but the two Ashdown cabs stacked are higher and easier to hear on stage. As you say both cabs are weighty but the SVT212AV is one lift only instead of carrying in two cabs. The best I guess would be two SVT212AV cabs ( both with the V4B ) or one with the ABM600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbasspecial Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I would seriously consider keeping the ABM600 and replacing all the other cabs with a Barefaced Supertwin. It’s the ultimate one cab solution. IMHO. It’s what I used at a festival this Saturday (mine’s a 500 though). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Honestly, I would probably just keep all of the cabs if space is not an issue. If pushed came to shove I would probably get rid of the Ashdown cabs. Nothing wrong with Ashdown cabs, but from experience in rehearsal rooms and gigs I really like the combination of Ashdown heads and Ampeg cabs. The Ampeg 2x12 just looks really cool so I would be wary of selling that especially if I owned the matching valve amp. At 600 watts it really should have more than enough volume for gigging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, pbasspecial said: I would seriously consider keeping the ABM600 and replacing all the other cabs with a Barefaced Supertwin. It’s the ultimate one cab solution. +1 Your three amps through a Super Twin will sound like three different rigs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 41 minutes ago, chris_b said: +1 Your three amps through a Super Twin will sound like three different rigs. And will sound completely different to through your current cabs. You may not like it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I think the Orange LBT is going to be sold to a pal of mine. This leaves me the V4B and ABM600 to use as and when Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 BF SuperTwin isn’t wide enough so won’t be considering that option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skychaserhigh Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Keep the V4B the Abm and the 212SVT and sell the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbasspecial Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, BassAdder27 said: BF SuperTwin isn’t wide enough so won’t be considering that option Obviously a Barefaced 610 then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassAdder60 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 38 minutes ago, pbasspecial said: Obviously a Barefaced 610 then! Now you’re talking 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 21/06/2022 at 02:50, hamfist said: And will sound completely different to through your current cabs. You may not like it. Unless you're in the real big leagues where you get to demand a mic on your cab, in the case of needing FOH you're better off with a cab that doesn't colour the sound so much. Enter Barefaced 12's with compression driver or tweeter, but even the bare 12 is supposed to be reasonably flat response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunderwonder Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 21/06/2022 at 07:52, BassAdder27 said: Now you’re talking 👍 Two of those in the classifieds at the moment. Once people digest the price rise on new they will be gone. In the meantime they could as well be painted yellow as they are going cheap. One is a nifty seafoam green if that floats your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankai Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Downunderwonder said: Unless you're in the real big leagues where you get to demand a mic on your cab, in the case of needing FOH you're better off with a cab that doesn't colour the sound so much. Enter Barefaced 12's with compression driver or tweeter, but even the bare 12 is supposed to be reasonably flat response. Yes, without the tweeter it’s still pretty flat but rolls off at I think either 4K or 6K, so easily managed on mixer EQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbiscuits Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Out of interest how does the V4B and ABM600 compare in terms of volume? I love the idea of the V4B (seen a couple on sale here) but wasn’t sure 100 valve watts was as loud as 500/600w solid state watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) I find playing through an ampeg cab, any head sounds like an ampeg. Playing through an ashdown cab anything sounds slightly dull and nondescript, but in a good way. What I'm getting at is both cabs are coloured and both designed to work as a unit with their respective heads. I've been down the barefaced route (210s, super compact, super twin) and to be honest it just didnt do it for me. The rigs sound best complete to me. Edited June 23, 2022 by la bam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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