spongebob Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Still down! Interested to see it, as I'm a self-confessed Markbass fanboy. Love the looks, tone.....have tried other brands in the meantime, but always come back to the black and yellow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBass Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Now with real rat fur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryancowell25 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I used and loved early Markbass products (and still own some of their best products) and was looking forward to this as I thought they’d lost their way a bit in regards to innovation. But the reveal. Lightweight cabs being chucked around on a keynote speech……. Surprisingly not the worst thing that’s happened in 2022. But close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 hours ago, fretmeister said: Live stream It's very slow going... I just skipped through this. OMG. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, wateroftyne said: I just skipped through this. OMG. It’s embarrassingly bad isn’t it. Ah well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I actually sat through it. Very poor. Would have been less embarrassing for Marco to come out and scream “lightweight cabs you sh1tnozzles” and then do 10 lines of coke. I’ll still try the new cabs, but in spite of the presentation, not because of it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddycall Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Wow. I was starting to get a bit Mark Bass curious but watching this has turned me right off🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebadon2000 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Waddycall said: Wow. I was starting to get a bit Mark Bass curious but watching this has turned me right off🤣 The presentation/announcement of new products may have been lacking but the new look, products and cleaning out of old are great and solid move by Marco. the '58' combo's with choice of new tweeter types along with ceramic woofer choice available and having FX loop, DI out on front [top], no rat fur, receded quality handle made in Italy along with New sized and shaped Italian line of Cabinets starting at 9.8 Kg doesn't have a 'turn off' vibe for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Almost an hour to impart 5 minutes worth of info. What an appalling presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agedhorse Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) Made in Italy or Indonesia? Edited July 1, 2022 by agedhorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 54 minutes ago, agedhorse said: Made in Italy or Indonesia? Italy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 13 hours ago, Merton said: Get the impression he thinks he’s Steve Jobs announcing the first iPhone. It’s a bass cab…. I think those guys really need to watch some Apple announcements to get an idea of how it's done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddycall Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Nebadon2000 said: The presentation/announcement of new products may have been lacking but the new look, products and cleaning out of old are great and solid move by Marco. the '58' combo's with choice of new tweeter types along with ceramic woofer choice available and having FX loop, DI out on front [top], no rat fur, receded quality handle made in Italy along with New sized and shaped Italian line of Cabinets starting at 9.8 Kg doesn't have a 'turn off' vibe for me. Never made it far enough to find out what all the fuss was about. It’s only bass amps after all........🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 I think the only really unique thing in the marketplace here is that they are pushing the environmental angle, which is certainly a big plus in my book. Lightweight cabs, nothing new, however if they can build them better than GR, they score a point. Naming convention akin to the madness of how Chinese firms name their armies of mobile phones? Lose a point. The rest is just hot air. They do make good stuff, and I wish them all the best, I just felt after such a build up, things fell a bit short. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 It's a bit odd to be launching a new product when they cant even get their existing products out to market. Unless theyve launched the cabs as their current amps are on hold due to supply problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzjames Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, la bam said: It's a bit odd to be launching a new product when they cant even get their existing products out to market. Unless theyve launched the cabs as their current amps are on hold due to supply problems. I recently bought a Markbass CASA 104 and it was surprisingly hard to get a hold of one. Maybe they were already ramping down production to make way for this new series of cabs and combos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jazzjames said: I recently bought a Markbass CASA 104 and it was surprisingly hard to get a hold of one. Maybe they were already ramping down production to make way for this new series of cabs and combos? Could be - especially if they were shifting the cab builds back to Italy. Can't be an easy thing to arrange. Personally I don't care where anything is built - it's not enough of an issue anymore. The days of "Far Eastern crap" are long gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Just had a look at the website. I'm sure that Marco fella is a pleasant enough chap in real life, but... he's coming across as a bit creepy. I like how the the blurb for each of the new cabinets ends with: MODERN CLASSIC WINNING AESTHETIC Considered by all as the most beautiful cabinet on the market! All? They certainly didn't ask me. Also, I do wonder how wise it is to have almost-the-same-but-not-quite variations of each cab? History tells us people don't like choices like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 The cabs seem to be very deep, and although 15.75kg for a 410 is amazing I'd still want some tilt back wheels on it! It's not quite as light as the GR AT410 (but a bit lighter than the AT410+). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Anyone found any prices yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, wateroftyne said: Just had a look at the website. I'm sure that Marco fella is a pleasant enough chap in real life, but... he's coming across as a bit creepy. He named this new range after his age. How weird is that? Anyway, we still don't know what the so-called revolution is all about. What's the cabinet material? There's no info on the website, but the corners look like polypropylene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzjames Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, fretmeister said: Could be - especially if they were shifting the cab builds back to Italy. Can't be an easy thing to arrange. Personally I don't care where anything is built - it's not enough of an issue anymore. The days of "Far Eastern crap" are long gone. I must say that the CASA 104 cab is very nicely made and appointed by nice handles, corners and control plate. I don't care where anything is made either; it's just about what quality standard is set by the manufacturer. I just can't get along with yellow speakers, hence why I got the CASA. (Looks past computer at KRK Rokit monitors 😂) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Jazzjames said: I must say that the CASA 104 cab is very nicely made and appointed by nice handles, corners and control plate. I don't care where anything is made either; it's just about what quality standard is set by the manufacturer. I just can't get along with yellow speakers, hence why I got the CASA. (Looks past computer at KRK Rokit monitors 😂) I like the yellow - and I saw in the presentation there were some made with a blue cab - still with the yellow speakers. I really liked the look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Edwards69 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Looks like GR Bass has some competition. I understand the GR Bass combos work quite well as an FRFR solution for bassists (indeed, I was told they are working on a proper FRFR solution as well). The new Markbass Mini CMD 121 Pure seems similarly specced to a GR Bass AT Cube, so I wonder how well it would perform in an FRFR capacity. FWIW, I had a markbass LMII and Traveller 121H. The cab was great, although to seemed to get heavier the longer I had it!, but I never gelled with the head. I just couldn't get on with the eq section. But now I use a helix as my tone shaper, this could be a non issue if it sounds great plugged into the fx return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossyrocks Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 With the (now) older cabs like mine, the corners allow stacking in any orientation. Looking at the new 102 Energy cab (the one I'm interested in), it looks like it will only stack horizontally, so the option of creating a 4x10 column has vanished. Ho hum. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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