Bagman Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: It's one thing being genuinely talented but a total dickw@d but another thing when you're the latter but with all the talent of something you've scraped off the bottom of your shoe. Liam Gallagher's without doubt the worst singer from a successful band of the last 50 years. As for his brother's c@ck songs where do you start the list of cr@pitude? The meaningless drivel that pass for lyrics? the rudimentary guitar, bass and drums accompaniment? Noel's shyt3 guitar playing?. Soz people, Oasis are one band I genuinely do hate and I get carried away. The guy from RHCP is worse than Liam Damned with faint praise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Bagman said: The guy from RHCP is worse than Liam Damned with faint praise Too close to call but yes he's total shyte too and pretty much the main reason I've never been able to stomach that band either. If they'd had a decent singer they'd have been 1000x a better band. Mind you, there are many other bands who'd have been much better with a decent vocalist e.g. Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater, Axl Rose, Smashing Pumpkins, Smiths, Springsteen, AC/DC, Cure, Megadeth, Rush, Happy Mondays.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Barking Spiders said: Too close to call but yes he's total shyte too and pretty much the main reason I've never been able to stomach that band either. If they'd had a decent singer they'd have been 1000x a better band. Mind you, there are many other bands who'd have been much better with a decent vocalist e.g. Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Dream Theater, Axl Rose, Smashing Pumpkins, Smiths, Springsteen, AC/DC, Cure, Megadeth, Rush, Happy Mondays.... Maybe I am missing something but I would have thought the flaws, complexities and life experience of the individuals in a band (particularly the songwriters) shape the art they produce so I really can’t agree that any of the above bands would have been better with a different singer. I also don’t get when society started to take the opinions of people that kick bladders up and down a football pitch or sing for a living seriously let alone comment about it on the news. Really strange world where rock stars are meant to be PR experts and brand ambassadors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, tegs07 said: Maybe I am missing something but I would have thought the flaws, complexities and life experience of the individuals in a band (particularly the songwriters) shape the art they produce so I really can’t agree that any of the above bands would have been better with a different singer. I also don’t get when society started to take the opinions of people that kick bladders up and down a football pitch or sing for a living seriously let alone comment about it on the news. Really strange world where rock stars are meant to be PR experts and brand ambassadors. I take your point as one or two of my fave bands have front men with errm 'singular' sounding voices e.g. Talking Heads but it kinda works. As for those I mentioned, plus The Stones and CCR, while the vocals are what do my head in most there are other reasons I don't care for them e.g. some of the band members are utter dickw@d$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: I take your point as one or two of my fave bands have front men with errm 'singular' sounding voices e.g. Talking Heads but it kinda works. As for those I mentioned, plus The Stones and CCR, while the vocals are what do my head in most there are other reasons I don't care for them e.g. some of the band members are utter dickw@d$ I doubt if there are many bands I really like that I would want to share a house with or date my daughter. Coldplay seem like a nice bunch of lads though but I wouldn’t want to listen to their music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, tegs07 said: I doubt if there are many bands I really like that I would want to share a house with or date my daughter. Coldplay seem like a nice bunch of lads though but I wouldn’t want to listen to their music. Indeed, though I disagree about Coldplay. They are nice blokes, who also make music I prefer listening to than those others ☺️. I do wonder whether all those people who diss Coldplay have listened to their albums, particularly the early ones. But that's another topic for another day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: particularly the early ones. I remember seeing an early Coldplay supporting Muse at London Astoria (shows how long ago it was). They were a complete snoozefest! Still, each to their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, Leonard Smalls said: I remember seeing an early Coldplay supporting Muse at London Astoria (shows how long ago it was). They were a complete snoozefest! Still, each to their own! I saw them top the bill at Glastonbury 2016 and they were excellent. They've probably upped their game over the years and are maybe better suited to playing big stadiums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upside downer Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: I saw them top the bill at Glastonbury 2016 and they were excellent. They've probably upped their game over the years and are maybe better suited to playing big stadiums If only they had a decent singer... 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 a singer that has a 'distinctive' voice can make a band, other wise they'd all sound like an X Factor winner, whether they're someone's taste is purely personal opinion, I like Liam Gallagher's voice for instance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, PaulWarning said: a singer that has a 'distinctive' voice can make a band, other wise they'd all sound like an X Factor winner, whether they're someone's taste is purely personal opinion, I like Liam Gallagher's voice for instance Its all in the song writing and live performance. If I had to pick my favourite musician of all time it would most likely be Tom Waits. The best description I have heard of him was he has a voice like a worn out shoe. As for behaviour most of the bands that I really relate to tend to be comprised of flawed and dis-functional individuals that find some from of release or expression through music. I certainly don’t look to them for moral guidance or social etiquette! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Dare Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 7 hours ago, tegs07 said: As for behaviour most of the bands that I really relate to tend to be comprised of flawed and dis-functional individuals that find some from of release or expression through music. I certainly don’t look to them for moral guidance or social etiquette! Exactly. Many artists leave a lot to be desired as people, but that's fine. We don't have to associate with them and can just appreciate their art from a distance. "Shut up 'n play yer guitar", as Frank Zappa (someone you probably wouldn't have wanted to meet if some of the stories about him are true) put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: Mind you, there are many other bands who'd have been much better with a decent vocalist e.g. Axl Rose At the risk of sounding pedantic........ tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 10 hours ago, PaulWarning said: a singer that has a 'distinctive' voice can make a band, other wise they'd all sound like an X Factor winner, whether they're someone's taste is purely personal opinion, I like Liam Gallagher's voice for instance You're probably right with regards to rock. It's a genre chocka block with distinctive vocalists which from a technical/musical standpoint are found a bit wanting. On the other hand I've never heard any equivalent in Soul. Every single soul singer I've heard can sing well whether solo stars, lead singers in bands or vocal groups. If I were to make a list of my top 20 singers pretty much every one would be a Soul artist. Much of the greatness of many Soul songs is down to the quality of the vocals. Anything less and they'd sound a bit shyte. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 11 hours ago, PaulWarning said: a singer that has a 'distinctive' voice can make a band, other wise they'd all sound like an X Factor winner, whether they're someone's taste is purely personal opinion, I like Liam Gallagher's voice for instance Lou Reed never had a good voice, but it was perfect for what he did with the Velvet Underground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 On 30/06/2022 at 14:52, Barking Spiders said: Eight years ago this month Justin Bieber was in Amsterdam and made a visit to the Anne Frank house. On leaving he signed the visitors book writing "Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber." In the annals of acts of crassness committed by 'stars' this has to be at the top. I mean, where do you start? Any other anecdotes of embarrassingly stupid things they've done or said in public I totally agree that in terms of crassness it takes some beating but, as one commentator pointed out at the time, at least he was interested enough to actually go to Anne Frank's house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I remember going to see Kid Creole and the Coconuts at some point in the early 90s. My expectations were low but they blew me away. August Darnell can't really sing very well but he has unbelievable charisma and stage presence - scantily clad Coconuts notwithstanding, it was hard to take your eyes off him. [/random memory] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, Paul S said: Kid Creole and the Coconuts I saw 'em in the 80s... He never said owt daft, but his band were absolutely kicking! Great gig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Paul S said: I remember going to see Kid Creole and the Coconuts at some point in the early 90s. My expectations were low but they blew me away. August Darnell can't really sing very well but he has unbelievable charisma and stage presence - scantily clad Coconuts notwithstanding, it was hard to take your eyes off him. [/random memory] I've seen them live twice, both among the very best gigs I've ever seen. That's the thing about AD. Don't think I've seen a performer with his level of charisma and presence. The Coconuts were as sexy as hell to the point I could barely take my eyes off them either and the band was tighter than a gnat's chuff. Rare gigs which have you coming out of the show feeling really good about life. Plus the music is great fun with witty lyrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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