Naming vintage Fender

[nilorius]

When is the time You can call You Fender - vintage ?

[BigRedX]

When you are trying to sell some otherwise terribly put together piece of crap.

[nilorius]

1 minute ago, BigRedX said:

When you are trying to sell some otherwise terribly put together piece of crap.

But if i want everything try, with papers and numbers and get the propper money.

[Reggaebass]

Don’t know if there’s any certain time but I’ve heard it said that before about 1976 ?

[Dad3353]

24 minutes ago, nilorius said:

When is the time You can call You Fender - vintage ?

 

The general rule for Fender guitars and basses would be pre-1970. This is not a legal definition, of course (there is no such definition...). Giving the date of manufacture would be a far more important statement than merely 'vintage'; it may even be wise to not use such a term.
Hope this helps. 

[Reggaebass]

35 minutes ago, nilorius said:

Fender - vintage

What year is yours 

[yorks5stringer]

Everyone should know it's 1972, when 50 years old.

 

Did I ever mention I have a 1972 Telecaster Bass?

[Shaggy]

In the antiques / secondhand world; generally something has to be at least 50 years old to be called vintage, and at least 100 years to be antique

 

Edit: beaten to it.........😕

Edited July 1, 2022 by Shaggy

[nilorius]

12 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

What year is yours 

I am not calling my j vintage, it's only 2002.

[Beedster]

50 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

When you are trying to sell some otherwise terribly put together piece of crap.

 

Word 👍

[Dad3353]

8 minutes ago, nilorius said:

I am not calling my j vintage, it's only 2002.

 

'Vintage', despite its etymology, does not mean 'twenty years' (from the French: vingt = twenty...). Its meaning differs in different markets (vintage cars, vintage furniture, vintage wines, vintage guitars...). Giving the actuel date is far more significant information for instruments. 

[nilorius]

2 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

 

'Vintage', despite its etymology, does not mean 'twenty years' (from the French: vingt = twenty...). Its meaning differs in different markets (vintage cars, vintage furniture, vintage wines, vintage guitars...). Giving the actuel date is far more significant information for instruments. 

Actually, i am not interested in selling mine as vintage, just want to know when criteria is - vintage.

[neepheid]

It's become just another misused word on eBay - I pay it about as much mind as L@@K

[Dad3353]

5 minutes ago, nilorius said:

Actually, i am not interested in selling mine as vintage, just want to know when criteria is - vintage.

OK, then retain 'pre-1970' as a good-enough guide. 

[nilorius]

3 minutes ago, neepheid said:

It's become just another misused word on eBay - I pay it about as much mind as L@@K

So You would be ready to pay 6000e for roadworn 2010.made vintage fender, if it sound and looks great to You?

[neepheid]

3 minutes ago, nilorius said:

So You would be ready to pay 6000e for roadworn 2010.made vintage fender, if it sound and looks great to You?

 

Why on Earth would you infer that from what I said?

[nilorius]

1 minute ago, neepheid said:

 

Why on Earth would you infer that from what I said?

Maybe be i disunderstood, sorry.

[neepheid]

12 minutes ago, nilorius said:

Maybe be i disunderstood, sorry.

 

Fair enough, then I'll clarify - in the context of describing basses, the word "vintage" has been so misused (as in, thrown around like confetti) that I basically ignore it. That doesn't negate my ability to determine what a fair price for an instrument is.

 

This phenomenon is not restricted to basses and guitars. I've seen 5 year old Lego sets with the word "vintage" in their description. Cue much eye rolling and "what-e-ver" from me.*

 

It is possible that the word has evolved to mean "no longer available to buy new"?

 

* - more like yelling "EFFING VINTAGE, ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME? THAT SET HAS GOT STUDLESS PARTS FFS!" at the screen...

Edited July 1, 2022 by neepheid

[Reggaebass]

48 minutes ago, nilorius said:

2002

I’ve got socks older than that 😁

[nilorius]

5 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I’ve got socks older than that 😁

I already said that i do not consider my j as a vintage, just wanted to know when it could happen.

[Reggaebass]

Just now, nilorius said:

I already said that i do not consider my j as a vintage, just wanted to know when it could happen.

Only joking nilorius 🙂

[Bunion]

20 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I’ve got socks older than that 😁

So, about these “Vintage” Socks, did you say £600? 

[nilorius]

On the other way, people who want to buy a real vintage Fender can mistake, with no licenced papers and serial that doesn't count. So what You choose - sound and roudworn or oficial docs.

[Mykesbass]

28 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I’ve got socks older than that 😁

What's the mojo like on them?

[Reggaebass]

7 minutes ago, Bunion said:

So, about these “Vintage” Socks, did you say £600? 

Well they are pre CBS 😁