Powerful neo cab recommendations

[spencer.b]

Had enough of lugging my ceramics around , ideally single cab , currently using a pair of berg hd112 , love the sound and I'll keep em but want something lighter as well 

Edited July 19, 2022 by spencer.b

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

Neo cabs aren't necessarily lighter. For instance, one of the most common tens is the Eminence Beta 10. It weighs 3.1 kg. The neo Deltalite II 2510 weighs 2.1 kg. In a 410 the driver weight difference is only 4 kg. Neos are quite a bit lighter when you're talking about premium drivers, but most bass cabs don't use premium drivers. It's a different story with the cab material. A 120 mm x 240mm sheet of 18mm Italian Poplar weighs 21 kg, the same size of MDF in 15mm thickness weighs twice that. You have to look at the weight of the finished cab, not just the driver magnet material.

Edited July 18, 2022 by Bill Fitzmaurice

[warwickhunt]

Hartke Hydrive 15" cab = 51.6lb - Neo

 

TKS 115H cab = 30.8lb - Ceramic

 

Just to illustrate @Bill Fitzmaurice point; I have both of these cabs and I can assure you the weight difference is appreciable yet the lightest cab is NOT neo!  

[fretmeister]

I love my Barefaced Super Twin.

 

18kg, wheels, 1200W handling, 4ohms.

 

It’s ace.

 

 

[Bankai]

23 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

I love my Barefaced Super Twin.

 

18kg, wheels, 1200W handling, 4ohms.

 

It’s ace.

 

 

Yes, it is pretty much the perfect one-cab solution.

[Gwilym]

44 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

120 mm x 240mm sheet of 18mm Italian Poplar weighs 21 kg

mm or cm? Stonehenge! 

[JapanAxe]

31 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

I love my Barefaced Super Twin.

 

18kg, wheels, 1200W handling, 4ohms.

 

It’s ace.

 

 

Or 17kg with cloth grille rather than metal. I looked at a few one-cab solutions and the Super Twin came out on top.

[Bill Fitzmaurice]

51 minutes ago, Gwilym said:

mm or cm? Stonehenge! 

Whatever. I still use real measurements that we got from good King Henry VII, not that latecomer Napoleon.

[Cuzzie]

Another nod to the cloth Supertwin 

 

clean eloquent sounding cab that be as loud or subtle as you want

[spencer.b]

11 hours ago, fretmeister said:

I love my Barefaced Super Twin.

 

18kg, wheels, 1200W handling, 4ohms.

 

It’s ace.

 

 

Hmmm I had a retro 210 and found it a bit indistinct , lacking punch , I'll check out the super twin though, voiced quite differently to the retro range?

 

 

[lownote]

If you have bunce the current Markbass crop are so light you have to put a beer glass on top to stop them floating away.  15Kg for a 4x10!

[spencer.b]

29 minutes ago, lownote said:

If you have bunce the current Markbass crop are so light you have to put a beer glass on top to stop them floating away.  15Kg for a 4x10!

Wow , I'll check em out , had an old lm2 for years as a back up , bombproof, never that into the old cabs but I'll investigate these

[lownote]

1 minute ago, spencer.b said:

Wow , I'll check em out , had an old lm2 for years as a back up , bombproof, never that into the old cabs but I'll investigate these

https://www.markbass.it/product/mb58r-104-pure/

[spencer.b]

Looks great but not sure there's any in the UK at the moment?

[Lozz196]

2 hours ago, spencer.b said:

Hmmm I had a retro 210 and found it a bit indistinct , lacking punch , I'll check out the super twin though, voiced quite differently to the retro range?

 

 

Yes, the 10" range are warmer/softer sounding, whereas the 12" range are much cleaner/flatter sounding.

[ossyrocks]

3 hours ago, spencer.b said:

Looks great but not sure there's any in the UK at the moment?

They're saying that they will hit the dealers worldwide in September.

 

I'm going to wait, but I won't be holding my breath in the meantime.

[pbasspecial]

+ 1 for the Super Twin

[fretmeister]

7 hours ago, spencer.b said:

Hmmm I had a retro 210 and found it a bit indistinct , lacking punch , I'll check out the super twin though, voiced quite differently to the retro range?

 

 

 

 

They are very different.

 

I have a One10 as well (and used to gig a pair of them).

The One series are more trad / vintage sounding than the 12XN range.

 

The 12XN stuff is more mid pushed / punchy, but not nasal like some can get.

[fretmeister]

2 hours ago, ossyrocks said:

They're saying that they will hit the dealers worldwide in September.

 

I'm going to wait, but I won't be holding my breath in the meantime.

 

 

I don't think they've even set the prices yet! I keep asking them on all their social media but never get an answer.

[ossyrocks]

6 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

 

 

I don't think they've even set the prices yet! I keep asking them on all their social media but never get an answer.

 

When they do, be prepared to be overjoyed, or deflated. It'll be one or the other.

 

Fortunately, Promenade Music stock a lot of their stuff and it's 15 minutes walk from me, so I'll be there as soon as they have them in regardless.

[Gwilym]

7 hours ago, lownote said:

https://www.markbass.it/product/mb58r-104-pure/

Wow, it's fair to say that MB don't shy away from the marketing toss.